On Sat, Nov 09, 2024 at 03:59:15PM +0200, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 07:00:01PM +0100, наб wrote:
> > I'm interested in salvaging your package console-cyrillic,
> Thank you, but honestly I am not sure this will be a good use for your time.
Well, I've done it already, so either way there's 
  
https://salsa.debian.org/salvage-team/console-cyrillic/-/commits/debian/?ref_type=46d4ae0fa39400ad404787561d2322bf7da53b0f

> The package console-cyrillic requires no work.
Disagree, there's outstanding non-wontfix bugs that affect the
functionality of the package.

I'd definitely agree that after fixing those,
it will probably require no work
(or a similar amount of work after another decade)
because the package is largely exhausted of functionality.

> The Linux console font 
> font format has not changed and is it not expected to change.  Yes, the 
> package hasn't been uploaded by me since 2016, but this is because this 
> was not necessary.
I disagree with this assessment. Any of the bugs currently outstanding
would've taken all of 3 minutes or sending a trivial followup to fix
(this is what they took me).

> Yes, the last three uploads are NMU, but you can see 
> from the changelog that these uploads did not require big source 
> changes. One upload required no source change at all, another upload was 
> only to change the source format to 3.0, and another upload did just a 
> trivial change in the control fields of the package.
Agree that the NMU criterion is fulfilled on paper only,
and not in any meaningful way.

> These days the only useful part (in my opinion) of console-cyrillic are 
> the fonts.
Sure. The programs are nice though (clearly, since people try to use them).

> The rest of the package is mostly of historical interest.
Definitely true.

> If 
> some tool in the package bothers the people too much, I'd rather remove 
> this tool from the package rather than waste my time to fix it.
I don't think any of them bother anyone, they just expect them to work,
and that was somewhere between a 1- and 4-line diff away.

> Ok, now I have to ask: how serious are you about the package 
> console-cyrillic?  I mean you did some work in the BTS and I suppose you 
> are preparing an upload of the package.  But is this just a temporary 
> interest or you intend to feel responsible for the package for the 
> future 10 years?
I'm the normal amount of serious, so if I adopt/salvage it,
I expect to field any bug reports until I'm physically incapable.
My life expectancy right now exceeds 2035, so the latter.

> In the first case, please feel free to do another NMU.
> 
> In the second case, feel free to add your name to mine as a maintainer 
> of the package.
I'll do this, then, thanks :)

> In the second case you may want to consider this: do you realy want this 
> package to be under version control?
obviously, always, all of the time

> Consider that most likely you will 
> be the only person working on the package and the source changes will be 
> none or trivial.
This may be a generational difference, because that sounds like an even
better reason to have it under git.

> In the first case, I think I'd rather keep the package not under version 
> control.

Best,
наб

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