Hi Andreas, Am Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 07:32:52PM +0100 schrieb Andreas Metzler: > > Well, my motivation was a popcon (vote!) > 100 to think there are some > > users. I'm aware that upstream is dead but we have other packages > > with dead upstream in Debian with way less users (and way more effort > > to fix some RC bug). > > well, other similar pieces of software are not that easy to replace. ;-)
ACK. > > I perfectly get your point but I'd prefer some soft migration for the > > users. For instance we might write down those alternatives inside > > README.Debian (which would you recommend). We could even try some > > NEWS.Debian warning users that this is dead and recommend something > > else. > > I think you have a very fair chance that less than 1 of 100000 users > would take a peek into README.Debian on a whim. ACK as well (unfortunately). > NEWS.Debian will be seen more often. > > But still this approach ("Drag it through another stable release just to > show a message") is not sustainable for dealing with removal. We just > drop them and expect people to deal with obsolete packages as described > in the release notes > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#obsolete Well, I'm actually not keen on putting even more packages on my table. If you consider it better to remove that package I'm fine with this. I've put the ITS bug in CC - if you want to reassign it to ftpmaster and retitle to RoQA this might be a sensible procedure. > You might wonder why I picked the whole thing up: During the usr-merge > transition I also regularily looked at the rc bug list and also stumbled > over mpg321. ATM I thought it would be better to drop it and filed bugs > against all rdeps to switch to mpg123 (or whatever they preferred). On the other hand we could upload the current packaging in Git to not affect rdepends that have not yet switched and remove once all moved away. To make things very clear: I do not insist in keeping everything inside Debian - so removals are fine. However, as long as we have something in Debian (even temporary) I prefer to have them in a good shape. Thanks a lot for your hints Andreas. -- https://fam-tille.de