On 2024-06-09, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 16:25:58 -0700 Vagrant Cascadian <vagr...@debian.org> > wrote: >> On 2023-07-18, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> > Hi. I was trying to build guile-gnutls via guix in a debian12 >> > container, and the sequence below happened. Is there a missing >> > dependency on daemonize? >> ... >> > # guix build -f guix.scm >> > guix build: error: failed to connect to `/var/guix/daemon-socket/socket': >> > No such file or directory >> > # /etc/init.d/guix-daemon start >> > /etc/init.d/guix-daemon: line 35: daemonize: command not found ... >> > successfully built >> > /gnu/store/wza4ydc3hcalql66m3w8f6xr2s4sm6vf-guile-gnutls-3.7.12-git.drv >> > /gnu/store/jq6zvcadd1wnv1yirhp3xr378l6g9n8c-guile-gnutls-3.7.12-git >> >> It is mentioned in /usr/share/doc/guix/README.Debian. > > is it? I ran into the same issue and I did read guix.README.Debian which does > not cover this situation. There is a section called "Using with sysvinit" but > that does not apply here because no sysvinit is involved, right?
In my experience I have never had this issue running systemd ... so I did assume it was a sysvinit environment ... let me know what environments this occurs in! I did some basic testing with sysvinit that worked at the time to resolve: https://bugs.debian.org/983248 Which is why the README.Debian includes any instructions at all. If those instructions are insufficient due to changes or other environments not covered... please clarify and ideally propose a tested, working fix! :) >> I am of mixed mind on doing more than that... with the debian defaults, >> it is not needed, so it seems a bit much to add it to Depends or even >> Recommends. > > In my opinion the argument goes the other way round: if a potential dependency > is already installed on most systems then adding a Depends on it does not hurt > because it will make no difference. On the other hand, very minimal systems > that do not have the package installed will benefit from such a dependency as > without it, the package cannot function. > > It seems though that the situation has changed a bit now in 2024 and the guix > package is installing a native systemd service file which does not require the > daemonize tool anymore? I do not think anything changed; the guix package in Debian has been using systemd units from very early on (if not from the very beginning); the systemd services do not require daemonize. > About systemd-sysusers: there is no policy requirement to add a dependency if > your package ships files in /usr/lib/sysusers.d in the same way as there is no > requirement to add a dependency on cron if the package ships a cronjob in > /etc/cron.d. Maybe as a datapoint, if src:guix were to run > dh_installsystemduser as part of the build, then it would add the following to > ${misc:Depends}: > > systemd | systemd-standalone-sysusers | systemd-sysusers Honestly, I do not wrap my head around all these different permutations of user and group instantiation. I have it working with a fairly standard debian install, and if there is something specific, simple and straightforward to make it work in other environments, I will not block it outright... > Another thing to ask: is there a common-enough use-case with which the package > can be used without systemd-sysusers (or some of its real providers)? It requires manually adding all the users and groups expected to be available with the guix-daemon service, and perhaps manual configuration of the guix-daemon service. > Maybe similarly, if one does not have the package "netbase" installed, running > "guix pull" will fail with: > > guix substitute: warning: ci.guix.gnu.org: host not found: Servname not > supported for ai_socktype > > This is because without "netbase" the file /etc/services will not exist. So > why > is the guix package not depending on "netbase"? This is brought up in: https://bugs.debian.org/1051829 I stalled out trying to find a reproducer of the issue that makes sense (e.g. an environment with network access but netbase not installed), but honestly, given the tiny size of the netbase package, I just went ahead and added it to Depends just now... live well, vagrant
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