On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 12:19:01PM -0700, David Lawyer wrote: > My ISP started requiring TLS authentication so I checked the exim document > supplied by Debian: README.Debian.gz.
TLS and authentication are two completely different things. There are common setups that - don't support TLS and do not require authentication - support TLS and do not require authentication - don't support TLS and do require authentication - support TLS and do require authentication - require TLS and require authentication All of them are about equally common. > Since I was going to use TLS as a client, it looks like I have nothing > to do. So I did nothing and found that my outgoing email was rejected > by my ISP and became frozen. After many hours of checking and > debugging I found that I needed to fill in the file > /etc/exim4/passwd.client. Then all was OK. So your ISP seems to be requiring both TLS and authentication. > Perhaps this isn't part of TLS, it is not. > but prior to my ISP requiring TLS, my > email worked fine with nothing in this file your ISP seems to have started requiring authentication as well. > Someone else on the Internet seems to have had similar problems. He > (like me) read that you don't need to do anything to get TLS if you're > a client. But apparently, the changes resulted in passwd.client being > required. So the doc might reference the section about passwd.client > prior to telling readers to stop reading. The documentation is correct. > Or better, exim could > produce an error message in the logs saying it found nothing (or > incorrect info) in passwd.client. SMTP doesn't allow to find out automatically whether a message is being rejected because of missing authentication or because of some other reason. I'm afraid that the origin of this bug is a misunderstanding on your side about basic SMTP mechanisms (mixing up TLS and authentication), and that there is nothing that the Debian exim packages can do. I have removed the "stop reading now" part of the README file since I actually want people to read the file in its entirety. Greetings Marc -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 72739835 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

