Dirk, Andreas, On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 10:49:24AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Yes, so I keep on updating r-cran- packages after freeze and save my > time to repeat myself.
I probably should not be the one to add fuel to the fire, but allow me to present some statistics. The debian R team team currently has 1151 packages, and at the time of writing this mail, there are only 2-3 volunteers who do the job of maintaining this chunk of work, which means each volunteer is maintaining at least ~384 packages just in the R team (and I'm speaking this in the context of team uploads, and not according to the name mentioned in uploaders field). Here's upload stats[2]. In addition to that, the said volunteers are also maintaining packages in other debian teams. For instance, my packages span across ~10-12 different teams, and same goes for Andreas. On top of that, there's also RFP requests from people and we have to constantly work on packaging new and relevant software for debian. @Dirk, you, on the other hand have most of the packages you maintain out of maintainer teams, and as far as I can see, you currently have 179 packages[3], and you mostly upload only those packages, so it is likely easier to bring them to cran latest at most times. I'm not trying to draw any comparison, but only stating facts. As you may see, the load that's on each volunteer is quite a lot, and it gets humanely impossible to keep all those number of packages into an updated state. We'd love to be at versions that CRAN (or bioconductor) is at currently, but there simply aren't enough cycles most of the times. I'd also like to point out that despite the constraints, during the past year, the number of stale packages were consistently less than '30' which is ~CRAN latest. Now is an anomally because freeze just ended, and there's a huge delta. [1]: https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?email=r-pkg-team%40alioth-lists.debian.net [2]: http://blends.debian.net/liststats/uploaders_r-pkg.png [3]: https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=edd&comaint=yes Best, Nilesh
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