On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 7:36 PM Martin-Éric Racine
<martin-eric.rac...@iki.fi> wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 2:32 PM Shengjing Zhu <z...@debian.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 7:23 PM Martin-Éric Racine
> > <martin-eric.rac...@iki.fi> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 2:13 PM Shengjing Zhu <z...@debian.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 7:09 PM Martin-Éric Racine
> > > > <martin-eric.rac...@iki.fi> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 1:58 PM Shengjing Zhu <z...@debian.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 6:53 PM Martin-Éric Racine
> > > > > > <martin-eric.rac...@iki.fi> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 1:36 PM Shengjing Zhu <z...@debian.org> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Package: dhcpcd-base
> > > > > > > > Version: 9.4.1-21
> > > > > > > > Severity: important
> > > > > > > > X-Debbugs-Cc: z...@debian.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For bookworm ntpsec has replaced the old ntp.
> > > > > > > > See https://bugs.debian.org/1003966
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  ntpsec (1.2.1+dfsg1-5) experimental; urgency=medium
> > > > > > > >  .
> > > > > > > >    * Add ntpd.service alias
> > > > > > > >    * Add ntp transitional packages (Closes: 1003966)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now the hook is wrong to assume the existence of /etc/ntp.conf 
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > /run/ntp.conf.dhcp
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you file a bug report upstream?  As of 10.0.1-1 (pending 
> > > > > > > upload),
> > > > > > > I have deprecated Debian's NTP hooks and use upstream's NTP hooks
> > > > > > > instead. Any missing support for alternative NTP daemons would be 
> > > > > > > best
> > > > > > > filed there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's filed for version 9.4.1-21, which is going to be included in
> > > > > > Debian Bookworm. However ntpd has been replaced by ntpsec in Debian
> > > > > > Bookworm. So the hook is wrong now. And the hook is a Debian 
> > > > > > specific
> > > > > > patch.
> > > > > > If you don't want to continue supporting ntpsec, I would suggest
> > > > > > removing this non-working hook for Bookworm (and its autopkgtest).
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not gonna introduce any change to the package for Bookworm this
> > > > > late into the freeze.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > However this is a real bug for Bookworm. Shipping non-working parts is
> > > > worse than non-support.
> > > > ntpsec taking over ntpd already happens for Bookworm.
> > >
> > > If you want to have ntpsec support in Bookworm, please submit a patch
> > > to add ntpsec support to the current hooks and ask the Bookworm
> > > release manager for an exemption to the freeze.
> >
> > TBH I really don't use ntpsec. I just looked through this package and
> > its autopkgtest.
> >
> > Why do you think patching ntpsec is the right thing here?
>
> Please read again.

I'm pretty sure I have read it carefully. Support for various ntp
implementations is located in dhcpcd's hook dir. It's not any ntp
implementation's responsibility to integrate with dhcpcd.

>
> > There is no old ntpd in Bookworm anymore, it's already been removed.
> > You include a non-working patch in dhcpcd and an always failing
> > autopkgtest. What's the benefit for the quality?
>
> I'm not interested in getting into a debate about this.

I'm not sure why you are so resistant about this. Are you worried
about the extra works? I certainly can work this for you and file
unblock request. But since the strong maintainship in Debian, it still
needs you to agree on.

-- 
Shengjing Zhu

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