On 2022-08-22 13:33:09, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Antoine Beaupre dijo [Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 03:17:52PM -0400]:
>> Package: wnpp
>> Severity: wishlist
>> Owner: Antoine Beaupre <anar...@debian.org>
>> X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org
>>
>> * Package name : pw
>> Version : 2
>> Upstream Author : Kaz Kylheku
>> * URL : https://www.kylheku.com/cgit/pw/
>> * License : BSD-2
>> Programming Lang: C
>> Description : interactively filtered pipe watcher
>> (...)
>
> Might I suggest the name "pipewatcher" or "pipewatch"? Two-letter-long
> package names abuse the namespace. Maybe the installed binary, yes,
> can remain pw (I think I'd use it quite often, less typing is good),
> but you should think it calmly :-]
So you're the second person requesting that I not use pw as a package
name. The first time was bartm that closed this issue linking to
#903814, which is another "pw" but completely different project. So I
dismissed that objection based on the fact that the other project is
actually abandoned.
But now you're making the argument we shouldn't have a project name with
just two letters. Yet it's how upstream calls it in the URL and in their
documentation. I think it would be confusing for users to call the
(binary) package differently. After all, I have also packaged `pv` in
the same way and people haven't (yet?) requested that I rename that
package `pipeviewer`.
I don't buy the ground rule of "two letter package names abuse the
namespace" though, what's the background on that? Is that official
policy?
I understand the concern, that said: it's possible there is a clash in
the future. I think it's a bridge we should cross when we get there
though.
>> (...)
>> For instance the command "tcpdump -i <ethernet-device> -l | pw" turns
>> tcpdump into an interactive network monitoring tool in which you can
>> use the dynamic filtering in pw to select different kinds of packets,
>> and use the trigger feature to capture certain patterns of
>> interaction.
>>
>> pw is like an oscilloscope for text streams. Digital oscilloscopes
>> sample the signal and pass it through a fifo, which is sampled to the
>> oscilloscope screen, and can trigger the sampling on certain
>> conditions in the signal to make waveforms appear to stand still. pw
>> does something like that for text streams.
>
> The whole thing looks _quite_ interesting! I hope you do get to
> package it. And, given I know your inclinations.. Once you do, please
> blog so we all remember to download it, test it, and add it to our
> toolbelt!
I will probably get around packaging it, but not before I audit and fuzz
it thoroughly. I'm not sure I'll find the time to blog about it, and
assume people are keeping dilligent tabs on new packages that come into
Debian anyways... ;)
a.
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