Control: severity -1 normal On 2022-05-17 13:20:30, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Package: libpipewire-0.3-0 > Version: 0.3.51-1 > Severity: critical > Justification: breaks unrelated software > > Several packages depend on libpipewire-0.3-0 in order to have > pipewire *support* (but they don't need pipewire: the user may > want to use pulseaudio). However, libpipewire-0.3-0 currently > has "Recommends: pipewire [...]", which means that the pipewire > package is installed as a consequence, which runs the pipewire > server automatically. > > FYI, xdg-desktop-portal depends on libpipewire-0.3-0, and > xdg-desktop-portal is automatically installed via dependencies > from packages like atril (a document viewer), gnucash and > viking. > > Until now, this did not seem to have any major drawback (except > that having a useless server running, just because that one wants > pacakges like atril, gnucash or viking). But now that vlc has > pipewire support in its plugins recommended by default, this > breaks VLC when one just wants to use pulseaudio. Worse, this > also breaks ogg123, with apparently ***no way of going back*** > (I suspect that the use of pipewire changed something in the > configuration), unlike VLC.
There are plenty of ways to go back: * uninstall the pipewire package * disable the pipewire service Also vlc still just works with pulseaudio. Please stop using RC severities for your crusade against pipewire. Cheers > > Packages that need the pipewire server (instead of only pipewire > support) could just depend on (or recommend) the pipewire package > directly. Users who want the pipewire server can install the > package directly. > > Note that usually, libraries do not depend on packages providing > daemons. > > So, in short: > * The "Recommends: pipewire [...]" is useless. > * It breaks other software, even not written with pipewire in mind. > > -- System Information: > Debian Release: bookworm/sid > APT prefers unstable-debug > APT policy: (500, 'unstable-debug'), (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, > 'stable-security'), (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (1, > 'experimental') > Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) > > Kernel: Linux 5.17.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU threads; PREEMPT) > Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, > TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE > Locale: LANG=POSIX, LC_CTYPE=C.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set > Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash > Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) > LSM: AppArmor: enabled > > Versions of packages libpipewire-0.3-0 depends on: > ii libc6 2.33-7 > ii libspa-0.2-modules 0.3.51-1 > > Versions of packages libpipewire-0.3-0 recommends: > ii libpipewire-0.3-common 0.3.51-1 > ii pipewire 0.3.51-1 > > libpipewire-0.3-0 suggests no packages. > > -- no debconf information > > -- > Vincent Lefèvre <vinc...@vinc17.net> - Web: <https://www.vinc17.net/> > 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <https://www.vinc17.net/blog/> > Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- Sebastian Ramacher
