On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 03:03:34PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > On Sat 12 Mar 2022 at 03:01PM +01, Marc Haber wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 01:00:44PM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote: > >> Roland Clobus has put a lot of work & thoughts into reproducible images, > >> so I've > >> added him to cc: now, so he can comment on this aspect of #1006912. > > > > Policy editors, I think we can now choose between taking care of the > > needs of reproducible images right with this policy change or do > > de-scope this temporarily until we have settled on the new wording > > (which also includes some definitions) and then handle this in a second > > change. I think the second change also needs the base-passwd people in > > the loop. > > The latter, please, assuming I'm not misunderstanding and the first > change makes things worse on the reproducibility front.
I am not a native speaker, but in my understanding my proposed wording does not change the way we're creating UIDs right now, just clarified terminology and explicitly writes down how things are done now, and Roland confirmed that the current image process doesn't care about numerican UIDs at all since they already make sure that package installation happens in a pre-defined order. That being said, an upcoming adduser change will allow local administrators (including image creators) to pre-define the numerical UIDs before the actual account gets created. This, however, does not influence the order of accounts listed in /etc/passwd, for this to be reproducible, the passwd / shadow package should make sure that their user database files are sorted. Greetings Marc -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421
