clone 1001908 -1 reassign -1 sysvinit-core retitle -1 Options -q and -Q are described in the body of shutdown, but not in the synopsis retitle 1001908 Consider shipping the systemd translation of shutdown(8) severity 1001908 wishlist thanks
Hello Hans,
thanks for bringing up this issue, there are indeed several bugs involved here.
> nothing important, just tried shutdown, and while readring the manual, I
> stumbled over a little issue:
>
> It says in the first line (German version, but maybe others are involved):
>
> /sbin/shutdown [-akrhPHfFnc] [-t Sek] Zeit [Warnmeldung]
What does it say (on your system) in the English version, i.e.
LC_ALL=C man shutdown
> and a little more down it says:
>
> -Q Warnmeldungen vor dem Herunterfahren stark reduzieren. Normalerweise
> zeigt Shutdown
> alle 15 Minuten eine Warnung an und dann in den letzten 10
> Minuten jede Minute, bis
> die Zeit erreicht ist. Wenn -Q angegeben ist, wird Shutdown
> nur warnen, wenn der
> Herunterfahrprozess tatsächlich stattfindet. Alle anderen
> Warnintervalle werden un-
> terdrückt.
>
> But if you try it, the option "-Q" is no more existent, and unknown, and
> correctly you see, it is not mentioned in the first line.
Yes, this is the first bug, and it is in the original man page from
sysvinit-core:
SYNOPSIS
/sbin/shutdown [-akrhPHfFnc] [-t sec] time [warning message]
…
-q Reduce the number of warnings shutdown displays. Usually shutdown
displays warnings every 15 minutes and then every minute in the last 10 minutes
of the countdown until time is reached. When -q is specified shutdown only
warns at 60 minute intervals, at the 10 minute mark, at the 5
minue mark, and when the shutdown process actually happens.
-Q Silence warnings prior to shutting down. Usually shutdown
displays warnings every 15 minutes and then every minute in the last 10 minutes
of the countdown until time is reached. When -Q is specified shutdown only
warns
when the shutdown process actually happens. All other warning
intervals are suppressed.
(Btw. also the lower case "-q" is not in the SYNOPSIS).
This is the first bug, to be dealt with in sysvinit-core and once it
has been fixed there, translations may follow.
I cloned and reassigned this accordingly.
The second issue is that shutdown (looking at your system info) is
most likely coming from systemd on your system, hence my question
above.
manpages-l10n is not able to handle this situation by itself. If the
distribution ships multiple version of a man pages, then we need to
decide which to choose, there is no such thing like "alternatives" for
manpages-l10n (even less so any detection - we simply install all
translated manpages, even if you never intend to use that software).
So ideally the localized man page would be shipped by each upstream,
then you get it along with the original version.
So I think the best course of action is to stop shipping the translation
of the sysvinit-core man page but rather use the version from systemd,
as any other supported distribution does.
What do you think?
> Nothing great and important, just to inform you. Maybe you want to delete
> this param description in your manual in the next version.
While on first sight this seems the best course of action, as
explained above this is not. We simply translate the original version
and any content change needs to appear there first, but here we are
most likly looking at the wrong upstream.
> Best regards and thank you for all the improvements!
Thanks for reporting.
Greetings
Helge
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