Hello

On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 06:47:44PM -0600, Micah Anderson wrote:
*SNIP*
> 
> I don't see why you cannot upload the updated kernel patches. The
> updated kernel patches work with the old utilities fine, although you
> cannot utilize the new features, it is completely backwards compatable.

Unfortunatly this is not true. The reason is that you will have problem
with /proc.

> Additionally, I strongly suggest that the kernel-patch-ctx be renamed
> to kernel-patch-vserver as the vserver project, and the kernel patch
> has not been called "ctx" since the last release from Jacques, which
> was almost two years ago now.

Agree. It will add some extra weeks to the upload though.

> I am available to help sort out the build problems on other
> architectures, if you have a failed buildd log and a package I can see
> what I can do to help.

The problem is that I want to verify the upload on some arches before
uploading to avoid too much hassle. I do not have access to that right now.

> > There are also some other issues as well but they are easier to fix. The
> > other problem is that the development branch is about to change and
> > debian will (hopefully soon) be released. I want a well tested vserver suite
> > in Debian instead of a very fresh one with potential lot of problems.
> 
> I disagree about this statement. The 1.9.4 release is really stable
> and isn't anticipated to change radically for quite some time.

According to the authors they want to make some bigger changes before
they go for a beta version.

> Additionally, Debian's soon-to-be-released state does not matter at
> all. I understand you want to have a well tested vserver suite in
> Debian Sarge for freeze, that makes perfect sense. However, there is
> absolutely no reason that prohibits you from making the new version of
> these utilities available in unstable. You may be wondering how you
If I do that, how do you think I can make updates to sarge? It is not
uncommon that minor changes is needed. Look at the changelog to see why.

> keep these versions from going into Sarge, well that is simple, you
> file a grave bug against them indicating that you do not want it to
> enter Sarge. This has been done on a number of packages in the archive
> already, a common method for continuing to move on developing and
> providing the newer software *in unstable*, while the testing/sarge
> version stays at the stable one that you wish to provide when Sarge
> freezes.

It is quite common but it is not recommended. The reason is that
you can not make updates to sarge. It also give confusion for the
release managers.

Regards,

// Ola

> Micah



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