On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 07:41:22PM -0400, Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> * Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 11:04:12PM -0400, Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > I'm not seeing what us being different is buying us though. Sure, the
> > > mozilla format is stupid, but there doesn't seem to be any advantage
> > > to the way you've done it. It's ok for us to be different, but there
> > > should be a good reason to be. 
> > 
> > Here is the rationale behind the change in xulrunner:
> > 
> > * It shortens the already long user agent string so that additions such
> >   as product name are not painful,
> 
> I haven't heard people clamoring for shorter User Agent string.

I have. Prior to the change our User Agent string was more than 100
characters long. That means dumb scripts that cut at 100 (I saw some)
can't even know it's firefox.

> > * removes pointless information (the date in the original string
> >   indicates the date of the build, not that of the API),
> 
> Well the way to attack that would be to make it more useful and use a
> fixed date rather than the build date. 
> 
> > * keeps the "Gecko" string (which some site might want, seing how Apple
> >   and Konqueror did put a "like Gecko" string),
> > * and finally avoid confusion with other Debian release informations
> >   that may be present in the product specific part (Galeon, Epiphany, etc.)
> 
> What is the confusion exactly?

If you have 2 or 3 Debian-something strings in the UA, how do you know
which one refers to which product ?

> > I changed in firefox as well because in the end, it will be built against
> > xulrunner and will get this change anyway.
> > 
> > The only problem with it is that it gives the firefox version, not the gecko
> > one...
> 
> I'm not seeing the benefit. The mozilla guys have a standard, and
> although it may be a crappy standard, I'm not seeing a strong reason
> to be different. 

I'm not seing a strong reason not to either.

Anyways, if you want this bug fixed, I made a patch so that the gecko
date tells the release date and the debian version gets added after the
firefox version. Tell me if you want me to commit.

Mike


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