Just a quick update. I'm doing some logging. To me it looks like DNS replies may not come fast enough. For some reason, with calls from spamc from procmail they aren't timing out and moving to the next hop (thereby marking it as the sender and causing the SPF failures) like happens in spamass-milter.

It is possible that an IPV6 reply from the first address is also an issue, but I'm not certain of this. It does appear that it's IPV6 addresses that cause the most issues from a brief perusal. It could also be that only the bigger e-mail senders are using IPV6 at this point and when another company uses something like outlook.com as its final relay, then checking through all the possible includes in that company's SPF records for which outlook.com is one just takes too long to finish processing the first time but is then available by the time procmail/spamc is hitting it.

As long as DNS resolution occurs, I haven't seen any issues with internal/trusted settings.

I've added dns to received-header for the logging and will post again if I get something definitive.

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