On 2021-02-23 09:03, Tomas Pospisek wrote: > On Mon, 22 Feb 2021, Christian Kastner wrote: > Oh, this is news indeed. I think Javier hasn't been working on for the > last 3 years [1]? So I'd say you Christian have been cron's defacto > maintainer?
While possibly so, I must note that effective with the last upload, I have removed myself from the Uploaders field, and therefore no longer am a cron maintainer. > So if the plan to migrate Debian's cron to cronie has been abandoned > (by you) and instead the plan is to drop cron and instead use systemd > timers as the default "cron" mechanism in Debian then I think this > defacto decision should be communicated clearly. The default "cron" mechanism in Debian will continue to be, well, cron. This is defined by the Debian Policy, and hence would need a Policy change, which almost certainly won't happen fast, and without discussion. The switch to systemd timers is just something that I have observed in practice. Packages shipping both timers and crontabs, with the latter being no-ops when systemd is detected. I, personally, believe that this is the right practice. The switch to cronie as default "cron" is indeed something that I possibly could have effected alone (as it doesn't require a Policy change), but recently abandoned. > As you might have seen I have added some suggestions on how people > could help with the migration from cron to cronie on cron's Debian > wiki page [2]. If the plan to migrate to cronie has been abandoned > then such initiatives do not make sense any more...? I think those suggestions are still spot on, and I believe migrating from cron to cronie is still the right thing to do. I'm just the wrong person for driving this :-) In the meantime, I have become fully occupied with other projects within Debian, and simply cannot drive this effort, or continue to be a maintainer at all. However, if anyone else wants to take over the effort, and I can help as a mentor and/or upload sponsor, feel free to do so. I have filed an RFA for cronie a while ago (#974038) and have received pings from some interested parties, but no results yet. My plans for cronie were probably too big anyway: instead of carrying over all of our features, perhaps it would be better to stick with standard "upstream" cronie instead, and to focus on making the switching process as easy as possible. If anyone wants to try this, feel free to contact me any time. Best, Christian > [1] > https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/c/cron/cron_3.0pl1-137_changelog > [2] https://wiki.debian.org/cron?action=diff&rev1=9&rev2=10<
