Hi, * Dominic Hargreaves <d...@earth.li>: > I don't recommend running without logging. Is there actually > a problem with having syslog installed? I mean, it's a standard logging > interface I'd expect to see on any Debian server setup and if systemd > doesn't provide it when users expect it, that's a flaw on the systemd > side.
Just wanted to chime in here: systemd's journald always takes over /dev/log. This usually means any syslog() calls end up in the journal. If rsyslog is installed, it takes those messages from journald and writes them into the usual plaintext log files. I believe the same is true for the other syslog daemons. Now, I -think- systemd does not provide system-log-daemon as that interface probably should have a syslog.service unit, by-default persistent log files and so on. > RT can be configured to run with file based logging, but that's not the > default. We could probably downgrade to Recommends if there was a real > reason to. If RT uses /dev/log (via syslog() or the equivalent Perl interface), its credible to use RT with journald-only logging. I think Recommends would be fine here. Most systems will still have a syslog daemon installed, because rsyslog is still Priority: important. Chris