Hello, --- Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Pierre M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Outside of Debian, you see this : > > > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian > > (may be not up to date, may be same problems as > dehs, but interesting) > > Looking at this briefly, it appears to be mostly > nonsense. The accuracy > rate of statements on it about unstable or etch > looks to be running at > about 50%, and even when it's accurate about some > things, it has some > obvious bad ideas (listing 2.2.0 as the current best > version for Apache, > for instance).
I agree with you. May be it is not accurate but that is why I ask about transparency : if Debian provided such a simple view of the workflow, I wouldn't ask my silly questions. And if Debian exported packages versions simply, sites like distrowatch could run accurately. Suppose distrowatch (or other) offers distro comparisons ala wikimatrix.org or cmsmatrix.org. How would Debian look like ? May be Debian already provides that simple view (targeting testers/users) and I'm sorry not to have found it yet. > > http://packages.debian.org/etch/ (err 404) > > Where did you get that URL from? > http://www.debian.org/releases/ > correctly links to > http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/. My mistake. It was http://release.debian.org/etch I like to refer to releases by name as if they were (are?) products (free products with nice QA). > > http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/ answers the tester > question "Why is package > > X not in testing yet ?" (the number 2 question of > a tester) > > This site is really not particularly useful to > people other than Debian > developers; too much of the information is technical > or related to the > inner workings of the testing migration. Yes, ok, you are right, it is developer oriented. But as I follow a tester view or a user view (so a feature driven view) I care very much about what version is or will be available. In the QA screen I see "version n+1 has not yet entered testing but you can *check why*". I value this link very much : sometimes a deeper dependency or build explaination is nice to know. Hey, I'm wishing a less dev oriented view after all :) > > http://dehs.alioth.debian.org/ the nirvana asks > the tester's question > > "why the dd isn't packaging current upstream > software ?" > > No, it doesn't. It answers the question of whether > the version in > unstable appears to be up to date, which is a > completely different > question. Thank you for this good key, my mistake again. I discovered the "ftp new queue". Would it help answering my "current packaging" question if the QA screen provided some information about the package in that queue the way it claims it has entered exp or unstable ? May be I should bug Debian marketing team rather than the QA with my non technical wish ;) PM (sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker) ___________________________________________________________________________ Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
