intrigeri wrote:
tags 369371 + moreinfo

thanks

Bill Thorsteinson wrote (01 Apr 2006 17:07:27 GMT) :
I installed metche a couple of days ago. Today I noticed email was
not being sent to the server.

Do you mean :
  - "sent to the server", i.e. the mail system was broken because of
    a full /var partition
or
  - "sent by metche"
?

Mail system was broken because /var/lib/metche used all available space on /var. No space was available for incoming files. Metche should provide some sort of quota system to prevent this.

I don't understand why this is a bug : the README and metche(8)
manpage clearly state that a number of "system states" are saved to
disk ; this is necessary for metche to be able to provide reports
(diffs), and to be able to rollback to a previous working state when
something gets broken... which is the actual purpose of metche.

Hours of identical backups done every 5 minutes do not provide useful rollback capabilities. When these backups result in functions like e-mail and system logging they become a liability.

Our documentation does not makes clear, though, that these backups are
not done incrementally.

Lack of incremental backups need not be that much of a liability, but should be documented. On my system the backups run 6MB each.

Also, I've just found a few bugs about the way metche is supposed to
remove old unneeded saved states... and actually does not, in
some cases. It would be really useful to send us the output of "metche
list", after letting metche work for a few days, carefully monitoring
it so that it does not break your system... is it possible ?

"metche list" after a few minutes is as follows. I have now modified to run hourly. That change is the only change in /etc since metche was installed.

stable-200604132028
stable-latest
testing-200604132028
testing-latest
unstable-200604132028
unstable-200604132035
unstable-200604132040
unstable-200604132045
unstable-200604132055
unstable-200604132105
unstable-200604132110
unstable-200604132115
unstable-200604132120
unstable-latest

I believe the problem lies in creation or removeal this may be where the problem lies. I would suggest running a tar diff against the last save state before creating a new save state. Generate a new save state only if state has changed. Changes in mod-time only should be ignorable.

I noticed that webmin status monitoring incorrecly locates some state information in the /etc/ directory. These files have their timestamps updated, but the content is stable. I have updated my conf file to include /etc/webmin/status.

ii mutt 1.5.9-2 Text-based mailreader supporting MIME, GPG,


Might it be possible mutt was missing when you were trying metche ?

ii  mutt           1.5.9-2        Text-based mailreader supporting MIME

Mutt is installed due to dependencies specified by the package.

Thanks
Bill


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