On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 03:39:24PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > I wonder if you used something like "systemctl > preset" in the past
not that I am aware of, I have not idea what that command does ;-) > > Yes, but I interpret this part of the man page as an information that I > > might end up with a system that doesn't think that it's synchronized and > > otherwise runs fine. It is is really meant to warn that the system might > > be inhibited from finishing booting with unrelated systemctl calls > > blocking indefinetely and upgrades stalling, this warning should be WAY > > more explicit. > > For me the man page is pretty clear, fwiw. > If you have ideas for how to improve the man page, please consider > filing an upsteam bug report. Considering the way Upstream likes to write in their man pages when their software fails to honor the robustness principle, I won't do that. > > A new title for this bug report could probably be "using > > systemd-time-wait-sync with non-systemd time sync services such as ntp > > might lead to weird behavior and incomplete boots". > > does > "systemd-time-wait-sync blocks indefinitely with alternative NTP > implementations, stalling boot and units depending on time-sync.target" > sound ok? Yes ;-) > In any case, if you want the documentation improved or the behaviour of > the service changed, you should best file this upstream. This doesn't > look like a downstream, Debian specific issue. Agreed. Things are going to stay like they are then. I don't have the energy these days to stand being told by Upstream that I am holding their baby wrong. Greetings Marc -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421