On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:13:15PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 3:03 AM Vincent Blut <vincent.deb...@free.fr> wrote:

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 05:35:52PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
>[Ross]
>> >I've run into other problems with services starting before all
>> >filesystems were mounted; I wonder if that's an issue here (not on the
>> >machine right now).
>> >i.e., /usr isn't mounted when timesync first checks for chrony, and so
>> >it thinks things are OK.
>>
>[Vincent]
>> I don’t think it’s feasible as the -.mount unit is unconditionally
>> active. As for separate /usr partition, that’s the role of the initramfs
>> to mount it.
>
>Unfortunately, this is one area I can speak from authority: it is
>absolutely possible for services to start before all critical mounts
>have happened. Bug#933139 has gory details.  Among other issues, bind
>attempted to start before /var was mounted.

Sure Ross, I do not dispute that. My comment referred only to /usr.

I'm not sure I understand  "I don't think it's feasible as the -.mount
unit is unconditionally active...."
I thought "it's feasible" referred to the idea that /usr might not be
mounted, and you were saying it would have to be mounted.
Since /var doesn't have to be mounted, my assumption is that /usr
doesn't have to be mounted for the same reasons, if it's a  separate
logical volume.  I can now confirm it is separate on my system.

As I said, even if all my suppositions are true they may have nothing
to do with current problem, though they would explain why timesyncd
might be able to start.

I seriously doubt that the issue you’re facing is due to /usr being not yet mounted. But we will know more when you’ll find time to test what I asked at the beginning of the thread.

Ross

Cheers,
Vincent

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