On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 11:31 +0200, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> 26/03/2019 19:05, Jason Gunthorpe:
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 02:51:25PM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > > 26/03/2019 10:21, Christian Ehrhardt:
> > > > > > rdma-core configures modprobe for ib/rdma modules, installs
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > helper daemons and installs some udev rules. It certainly
> > > > > > makes
> > > > > > administration of the server an easier task, but it isn't
> > > > > > *required*
> > > > > > when configuring a Debian server for rdma and user-space
> > > > > > ibverbs.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I didn't think it is required for mlx5 as the ethernet driver
> > > > > autoloads the rdma modules itself..
> > > > 
> > > > Below is the log that I got from Mellanox (thanks Alaa and
> > > > Thomas.
> > > > To me the messages related to ib_uverbs seem interesting.
> > > > 
> > > > @Jason - this is triggered by DPDK. In regard to the
> > > > autoloading - did
> > > > you refer to DPDKs net_mlx5 or the kernels net_mlx5 in e.g.
> > > > mlx5_core.ko?
> > > > I only found [1] which does not seem right, can you point at
> > > > the
> > > > autoloading feature (a commit maybe) that you meant (keep in
> > > > mind this
> > > > is DPDK 17.11.5)?
> > > > [1]: 
> > > > https://doc.dpdk.org/guides/nics/mlx5.html#compilation-options
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > There is no autoloading of kernel drivers when using DPDK.
> > 
> > It looks like it is only done if the mlx5 NIC driver detects some
> > kind
> > of RDMA mode..
> > 
> > > > @Allaa/Thomas - due to the messages in the log, could you try
> > > > if
> > > > instead of installing rdma-core just doing the modprobe would
> > > > be
> > > > enough to resolve the problem?
> > > >   $ modprobe ib_uverbs # instead of the apt install
> > > 
> > > Yes, manual modprobe partially replaces rdma-core packages.
> > > 
> > > These are the files we identified as required from the rdma-core
> > > packages:
> > >   /etc/modprobe.d/mlx4.conf
> > >   /etc/rdma/modules/rdma.conf
> > >   /lib/udev/rules.d/90-rdma-hw-modules.rules
> > >   /lib/systemd/system/rdma-hw.target
> > > 
> > > The first file (mlx4.conf) is a template helping to get the right
> > > config
> > > by commenting out a line.
> > > The others files are for autoloading of the kernel drivers.
> > > 
> > > I think you should include the rdma-core package when using DPDK.
> > > It can be a dependency of the DPDK package, or a dependency of
> > > libibverbs.
> > > Does it make sense to install libibverbs without rdma-core
> > > configuration?
> > 
> > Many rdma drivers do properly autoload and don't need the udev
> > magic.
> > 
> > I have a long term plan to avoid needing this, but nobody is
> > working
> > on it right now.
> 
> So I guess the recommendation is to make DPDK depends on rdma-core
> package.
> Luca/Christian, is it possible to do this change in your packaging
> please?

Yes if the libraries can be used without the rdma-core in the general
case then we can add a dependency via the mlx pmd.

-- 
Kind regards,
Luca Boccassi

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