Hello Bernhard, Now it (a) loads completely without crash from the same iPod (and no changes there), and (b) does so in <50% as long.
Arrgh! I hate Heisenbugs!!!! It was entirely repeatable last week, 3 for 3. I've not rebooted since before my report, nor has the rhythmbox package changed version (3.4.3-2) , but any of the dependencies may have been updated by automation. I installed the debugging symbol packages, then started under gdb, plugged in the iPod and no load-up crash, plays fine. I then ejected and ran rhythmbox without gdb, plugged in the iPod, and again no load-up crash, plays fine. Some more answers embedded below. On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 10:27 AM Bernhard Übelacker <bernha...@mailbox.org> wrote: > Hello Fred Korz, > I just tried to get some more information out of backtrace, > without having an iPod or being involved on packaging rhythmbox... > > But am I right this "Debian Release: rodete" is a version > of gLinux - Googles internal rebuild of Debian testing? > Can this be downloaded somewhere? > The name, "rodete", is "ROlling DEbian TEsting" and apparently a pun in spanish as well. It is Debian testing but, as I understand it, run through an internal "sieve" of tests before rolling out a consistent snapshot to users. It's sort of what would happen if one lagged testing by about 1-2 weeks, though some packages can be closer to testing's head if urgent. > And are there debug symbols available for installation? > Yes they are. I've installed these debug symbol packages at work and will install at home tonight. > In Debian these packages are available in a separate > repository [1] and are named like this: > > rhythmbox-dbgsym librhythmbox-core10-dbgsym libglib2.0-0-dbgsym > libtdb1-dbgsym > > If yes, you could try to install them and run rhythmbox > like this and provide the output: > > gdb -q -ex 'set width 0' -ex 'set pagination off' -ex 'run' -ex 'bt' > -ex 'detach' -ex 'quit' --args /usr/bin/rhythmbox > Damn Heisenbug. Blew out 3 times last week, once with a coworker there to see it. None this time, either with gdb or without. > > As this fault seems to be inside the memory allocator, maybe > setting "export MALLOC_CHECK_=2" might reveal some more details? > > Can this fault be reproduced on a plain Debian testing, too? > I'll try tonight/tomorrow (20190319/20190320) on a system at home where I've been running Debian testing for 14+ years now, usually update nightly, and rarely get burned by something slipping through from experimental into testing that wasn't quite ready. It's likely that I'll have to install rhythmbox + symbol packages. I've had no need for rhythmbox there. That system is where the backup copy of my music library lives and I use vlc directly from the files, or serve my library via forked-daapd (successor to firefly / mt-daapd). > Kind regards, > Bernhard > Thanks for the guidance. I wIll both (a) get back to you with results - reproduction or Heisenbug - and (b) keep the instructions in case of some future return of the Heisenbug, hoping to get a better capture. > [1] > https://wiki.debian.org/HowToGetABacktrace#Installing_the_debugging_symbols > [1] > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6750815/how-to-turn-off-glibc-run-time-protections >