On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 02:39:10AM -0500, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> Some questions:
> 
>  * why put the module reloading in wireguard-tools.postinst and not in
>    wireguard.postinst ?  There's no guarantee that wireguard-dkms will
>    have been upgraded by the time wireguard-tools.postinst gets invoked.
>    Indeed, wireguard-tools only "Recommends: wireguard-dkms (=
>    ${source:Version})", but doesn't "Depends: wireguard-dkms".
> 
>    In some sense, i think this might actually belong in the postinst of
>    the wireguard metapackage, where we can be sure that both subpackages
>    (the kernel parts and the userspace parts) have been installed.  For
>    minimalist installations (those without the wireguard metapackage)
>    the admins can handle the upgrades manually themselves.

Now that you mentioned this, I am not so sure my assumption that
'postinst configure' of the recommended package must have been called
already when 'postinst configure' of the recommending one is called is
true, and a quick excursion into Policy, man deb-control and dpkg
sources did not convince me either way.

Maybe going with the meta package is a good idea then - especially since
it allows us a cheap 'opt-in' for the reloading behaviour.

> 
>  * The debconf question looks good (and thank you for taking the time to
>    care for i18n!), but i'm wondering whether three values is too many
>    to choose from.  Is there any common use case where people would
>    really need to have "always" instead of "module"?

I was thinking about changes to the wg-quick template unit (e.g., adding
more isolation features). But those are likely not as important as
changes to the module, so if we simplify to two (or no ;)) options, I'd
also go with the 'module' semantics.

>  * heading further down the simplification path, what if we just said
>    that the "wireguard" metapackage would take the behavior currently
>    specified as "module" directly in it's postinst configuration,
>    without offering the admin any choice?  The admins who don't want
>    that behavior can always choose to not install the "wireguard"`
>    package, and can track the two sub-packages manually.
> 
> I hope it's not too frustrating that i suggested the use of debconf over
> on the mailing list, and now i'm suggesting that maybe we don't need to
> use it at all.  Seeing both eggie's work and your work on this has
> helped me think through the various options much farther than i would
> have gotten on my own.

If nothing else, I learned a thing or two about debconf last weekend :)

> If we end up with something even simpler, that might be even better!
> 
> What do you think about this simplified proposal?  To implement it, i'd
> probably change the description of the wireguard metapackage to clarify
> this new additional functionality, and then try to make a trimmed down
> version of your postinst script that does things as simply/quietly as
> possible.

Sounds good to me. And was so straightforward I just went ahead and
pushed that (the previous iteration is available as
mr/reload-on-upgrade_v1 tag). You probably still want to adapt the echo
statements and package description ;)

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