Hi, On Wed, Mar 01, 2006, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > synaptic permits removal for "uncommon" situations, but *should* install > recommendations by default. I still disagree that it's a bug not to do > so though.
You disagree that's it's a bug not to implement the dependencies described in Policy? This is a serious statement. I'm not sure which way I'll follow to get this clarified, I'll keep you in the loop when I've decided. > >The position you're taking of considering this lower priority is in > >effect pushing package maintainers NOT to use Recommends because these > >are simply not honored. > I didn't say anything about the priority, because it's useless as we > don't have several priorities/severities for wishlist bug. Right, I meant lower severity, not lower priority. I stand corrected. Back to my point: the simple fact this is not implemented renders this type of dependency *dangerous* for package maintainers to use. I can't rely on the behavior or Recommends to be installed by default any more, hence I'm forced to upgrade deps to Depends, and to remove freedoms to my users. Thanks. > >Do we really want to allow a package manager which doesn't enforce > >Recommends by default in our release, effectively putting its users in > >an unusal situation (such as one requiring manual configuration) each > >time a package without its Recommends is installed? > We certainly do, until we get a better package manager. Actually, the > users won't be put in an unusual situation as long as they do look at > the package recommendations and choose what they want when they install > new packages. I certainly *don't*, we have correct package managers already, aptitude is an example, and the old and not-so-maitained-anymore dselect is handling this way better than synaptic. How can you consider pushing users into using "simpler" or "nicer" software when you are in fact pushing them into breaking recommends? Package recommendations have to be the default, and don't have to be explicitely selected by users. Cheers, -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Current Earth status: NOT DESTROYED
