Control: severity -1 wishlist Control: tags -1 +wontfix Closing as rant.
If somebody actually provides a build profile, we might actually consider using it if it doesn’t complicate things too much. Ondřej -- Ondřej Surý <ond...@sury.org> > On 25 Feb 2018, at 11:57, lkcl <l...@lkcl.net> wrote: > > Package: mariadb-server > Severity: important > > first thing: please do not just close this bugreport as "well you're using > unauthorised repositories, so go screw yourself". it's not funny, and > also the entire purpose of angband.pl/debian is to properly test that > *when* people disable systemd (by installing sysvinit for example), the > package *actually* properly works. > > the level of insanity associated with systemd permeating its way insidiously > into pretty much absolutely every package under the sun continues with > mariadb. > > i wish there was a way to say that without implying that it was an extremely > bad decision... but there isn't. > > can you *please*, for god's sake, create a build profile for mariadb which > *specifically* creates parallel packages with a "-nosystemd" prefix, that > includes building dh debian/rules with "--without systmed" in them. > > i tried modifying mariadb to build it. the build *actually failed* with > a gcc hard segfault due to the system it was being built on (a VM) only > being allocated 0.75GB of RAM [and 16GB of swap]. > > there are *genuine and legitimate reasons* why people choose not to use > systemd, > that were completely ignored by the "vote". > > no we cannot be expected to abandon debian and go with devuan (the conversion > is too time-consuming and risky). > > no we cannot be expected to abandon debian and go with *BSD > (same reasons *and* it's far too different anyway). > > no it is not really acceptable either to expect developers to convert > *entire applications* to NO LONGER USE MYSQL. > > no it is not acceptable to FORCE experienced sysadmins onto systemd when > they look up the CVE mitre database and see quite how many security > vulnerabilities there are. > > please for god's sake understand and accept that this is not going to go > away, ever, not this year, not this decade, not the decade after that. > the requests to support systemd-less debian are going to be absolutely > and unremittingly relentless, year after year. > > these requests *can* be ignored... or, a build profile created (for packages > that have been forcibly made to depend on systemd) which does *not* > depend on systemd. > > > > -- System Information: > Debian Release: 7.4 > APT prefers testing > APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable') > Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) > Foreign Architectures: i386 > > Kernel: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) > Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) > Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash >
