On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 09:24:44PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 31.01.2018 um 21:09 schrieb Kurt Roeckx: > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 08:56:40PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> Am 31.01.2018 um 20:13 schrieb Kurt Roeckx: > >>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 06:24:41PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > >>>> Am 31.01.2018 um 18:20 schrieb Kurt Roeckx: > >>>> > >>>>> This is all not related to my issue, that while having udev rules > >>>>> to set permissions I do not get them. > >>>> > >>>> Then I have no idea what your problem is. > >>> > >>> The problem is fixed if I remove consolekit and install > >>> libpam-systemd > >> > >> Hm, right. On any system but a barebones server or container, you should > >> have libpam-systemd installed. That's why it has priority standard and > >> is recommended by systemd. > >> > >> consolekit should be uninstalled. I doesn't do anything useful anymore > >> since jessie. I wasn't aware that it is actually harmful these days, > >> though. > >> Maybe we should add a Conflicts somewhere to force its removal. Thoughts? > > > > So should conselekit be removed from the archive (on the linux > > arches)? > > I think so. I already had such a change made years ago but never > uploaded that to the archive (at that time, we didn't have sourceful > uploads, so this would have been tricky, as I would have needed a > kfreebsd build system). > > > And if so, why not a Depends instead of a Recommends? > > You mean in systemd? Maybe we should. So far we were overly cautious to > not upset anyone and enforce anything unless absolutely necessary (as > said, there are use cases, like single-user bare-bones installations > where you don't strictly need libpam-systemd so should have the > opportunity to uninstall it). > History has taught me though, that there are much more users who have > disabled Recommends and ran into issues because libpam-systemd was not > installed. > (libpam-systemd is responsible to register a logind session when you > actually login. This is then used by systemd-logind to apply devices > permissions and sorts of other stuff).
I didn't check why, but when I removed consolekit, libpam-systemd was installed instead. This seems to be why: lightdm Depends libpam-systemd | consolekit Maybe lightdm should drop the alternative? Kurt
