Control: reassign -1 pulseaudio 11.1-4 Control: retitle -1 pulseaudio: reevaluate recommends on dbus-user-session Control: tags -1 = moreinfo Control: severity -1 minor
I fully agree that this is an issue in pulseaudio, not in dbus-user-session, so reassigning. On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Vincent Lefevre <vinc...@vinc17.net> wrote: > On 2017-12-07 18:08:47 +0000, Simon McVittie wrote: >> The recommendation should ideally be something like >> "dbus-user-session | NOT(booted using systemd)", but we don't have the >> syntax to express that. > > How about a new package pulseaudio-no-systemd and a Recommends on > "dbus-user-session | pulseaudio-no-systemd"? This package would > do almost nothing. It could possibly change the configuration to > re-enable autospawn. It would be weird to have two snippets installed, one that enables and the other disables pulseaudio. > The very few users who boot using systemd but without systemd-sysv > would have to force an install of dbus-user-session anyway. So the > Recommends would be satisfied with just dbus-user-session for them. I'm not sure I fully sympathize with the want to have all recommends fulfilled (after all, they are "weak" depends precisely to be able to break them!). But I don't want to make it unnecessarily difficult either. I'm open to suggestions to improve the current situation, but they must fulfill the following properties: 1. It should use the systemd --user manager by default 1b. We should keep a single place to disable, which would be the systemd --user manager, and thus autospawn needs to be disabled by default. 2. This configuration should not be changed unless explicitly chosen by the admin/user. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler
