On Thu 06 Jul 2017 at 02:13:57 +0530, Prahlad Yeri wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 20:24:20 +0100 > Brian Potkin <claremont...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu 06 Jul 2017 at 00:35:21 +0530, Prahlad Yeri wrote: > > > > > Can confirm this bug on the live installer - tried both XFCE and > > > LXDE versions. > > > > > > Never expected such goof up on a debian stable version! > > > Granted that its just released, but we do go through ages of testing > > > before reaching stable, don't we? The reason a user comes to debian > > > in the first place is stability. If you don't even get that, then > > > what is the rationale for using debian stable against something > > > like Ubuntu LTS where you get both stability and newer packages? > > > > Your question (after the rhetorical first one) is probing. Debian has > > never had bugs before. We do not know how this managed to creep in. We > > will try better. > > Sorry, didn't intend to hurt your feelings, just trying to raise my > concerns as a user and trying to understand the process. I don't know > how the testing process works at debian, but If I were making the point > release of a distro, one of the basic things I'd check is whether the > ISO installs work on an actual physical machine (not in a VM) - and > doing so would have helped catch this bug as there are usually no > network resources (like wifi, etc.) configured at boot time that could > have provided internet connectivity (in which case, it used to work and > the bug wasn't apparent).
I subscribe to and read -user, where quite a large number of posts have recently discussed the state of installing from a live image. I have also seen reports of the efforts being made to mitigate the situation, particularly by Steve McIntyre. So I became a bit grumpy, a mood which is not good when contributing to a bug report. Apologies if I gave the impression user contributions are unwelcome. Perhaps https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2017/06/msg00335.html brings some perspective to the matter. The more users who use live images and report bugs in the pre-release phase, the better the image quality will become. -- Brian. > > I understand that bugs are a part of the linux distro life cycle, but > I did not expect something as basic as an install process to falter. > But again, maybe I'm wrong about the bug being so apparent, and its > just easy to say this in hindsight. > > No offence meant, have a nice day! > > -- > Regards, > Prahlad
