Colin Watson:
> On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 04:51:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > a friend tells me /etc/init.d/pcmcia start; outputs
> > 
> > Starting PCMCIA services...cardmgr[2904]: no pcmcia driver in /proc/devices
> > failed!
> > 
> > on Linux 2.6.15. pcmciautils' message doesn't seem more confusing than 
> > pcmcia-cs'. Do you have a suggestion for improving pcmciautils' message?
>
> Well, I think mentioning pcmcia-cs in the pcmciautils message would
> help. I'll make up some suitable wording and apply that shortly.
>
> In Ubuntu we just suppressed this message on boot (but not on
> '/etc/init.d/pcmciautils start' etc.), which might help too.

I think this should be done for Debian too. I was planning to do it. I
think /etc/init.d/pcmciautils should not output anything except
if it's loading a bridge module in case it should say:

Loading PCMCIA bridge driver module: i82365.

This should only happen if udev hasn't already loaded a bridge module
automatically. The point is that PCMCIA should be a part of the rest
of the system and normally not need a specific init script to run to
work.

> The init scripts need to do different things, and I'd rather not have
> the two packages depend on each other that way, at least not until we
> have a pcmcia-common or similar. It's actually useful for the init
> scripts to be separate I think - it means that we can discard a lot of
> the old pcmcia-cs cruft (no offence, Per!) in the pcmciautils init
> script and make it a lot more comprehensible.

My plan is that pcmciautils will become the "common"
package. pcmcia-cs already depends on it, I'm just going to have to
move the /etc/pcmcia/config.opts generation stuff (which I'm planning
to simplify, hopefully we won't need dmidecode).

I agree that it's useful to discard the pcmcia-cs cruft, I don't like
it either.

-- 
Pelle


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