On 28/01/17 20:42, Carsten Schoenert wrote:
> then I don't understand your first email.

Do I need to clarify more or did my follow-up mail already do that?

> So I have currently no clue where the timestamps with *.000000000 are
> coming from.

Maybe I'm nitpicking, maybe I'm pointing out something relevant. I think
all files in a .deb binary package have a 0 fractional seconds part. I
think they are stored with one second resolution. But the problematic
files have a fake mtime of 2010-01-01 0:00 UTC that is the same over
different .deb binary packages.

> But this looks like something that could be come from the
> tools the reproducibly team is using and creating.

That does sound like a clue!

> Next we need to clarify with which package version such timestamps are
> shipped for the first time.

Done!

Using my backups, I could trivially deduce which stable package
introduced the change. In 38.8.0-1~deb8u1, the times are still recent.
In 1:45.1.0-1~deb8u1, the 2010-01-01 times show up.

Next using snapshot.debian.org[1], using a manual binary search through
the .deb files, I could pinpoint that

41.0~b2-1

is the first version where the 2010-01-01 times show up. The one before
that, 40.0~b1-1, still has recent mtimes.

HTH,

Peter.

[1] http://snapshot.debian.org/package/icedove/

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