2016-12-25 13:12 GMT+01:00 David Kalnischkies <da...@kalnischkies.de>: > I do think this specific instance is a rather temporary instance through > as mariadb was only recently repeatedly uploaded, so two versions are > still "fighting" over their spot in the archive.
Maybe, but such situations continue to keep up in testing / unstable in the future right? > In so far the /var/lib/dpkg/status file of the situation before the > dist-upgrade would be interesting – you might still have it in > /var/backups – as these solver things tend to be highly dependent on > mirror state and the specific packages installed on a machine. I dropped the VM, sorry.. how does this state affect the proposed solution though? > >> Can't it detect mariadb-server-10.1 being a proper upgrade of >> mariadb-server-10.0 and hence scoring this as neutral or positive? > > In general no, because that isn't a positive upgrade: It involves the 10.1 declares replaces on 10.0 doesn't it? Doesn't apt use this information? > removal of packages, which means features and services are removed other > programs (packaged or not) might use and/or the user does. The very way Any package upgrade might remove some behaviour / feature a user uses.. > this "upgrade" is packaged (= in another package forcibly removing the > old) indicates that this upgrade isn't free: Something will have to > adapt to changes – and changes are bad. Everyone hates changes: Ask all > users of $DESKTOP_ENVIRONMENT being upgraded to $DEKTOP_ENVORNMENT+1. > (The last bit is a bit exaggerated of course). > > It is what it is: A few new packages and a few packages removed – that > you identify that as an upgrade is based on your knowledge of mariadb > and how it (incompatibly!) changes in each new version: For apt it looks > like the package 'default-texteditor' changed its depends from 'vim' to > 'emacs' [actually worse than that as those two are co-installable] and > that isn't an upgrade! ;) It's not? :p Does vim also declare replaces: emacs? -- Olaf
