On Sat, 2016-12-17 at 02:06 +0100, Tobias Schlemmer wrote: > Am 15.12.2016 um 21:03 schrieb Ben Hutchings: > > On Thu, 2016-12-15 at 20:15 +0100, Tobias Schlemmer wrote: > > > Hi Ben, > > > > > > Am 14.12.2016 um 23:51 schrieb Ben Hutchings: > > > > Control: tag -1 wontfix > > > > > > > > This code is broken in several ways, > > > > > > For me it would be interesting to know about them. So I could improve my > > > skills. > > > > For one, it has dependencies on scripts in /root on the root > > filesystem. > > Actually, it does not. functions.ts and local.ts are patched copies > /scripts/functions and /scripts/local, which I keep in /root for > development purposes, only.
That's what I thought. > Both patches have been provided. But not in a state which would ever be suitable for applying to a package. > > [...] > > > Otherwise I expect that there will be many more bug reports and > > > complaints about initramfs in particular, Debian at medium level and the > > > unpredictability of Linux configuration in the future. > > > > There has been one other bug report so far (#781656). > > You probably have not noticed #847119. It is not obvious, that the > problem is caused by initramfs ignoring the mount order of fstab. So you > are probably not informed about all bug reports regarding this problem. I think I can rely on the systemd maintainers to reassign such bugs. > > The lack of > > support for bind-mounting /usr (which I hadn't previously considered) > > was then documented in initramfs-tools NEWS and the release notes for > > jessie. > > Sorry that does not help when I have to decide whether to install an > package or not, especially when there are more than 1000 packages to > upgrade. This information is available only after installing the > upgrade. This means, when the system is already unbootable. The release notes are available before a system upgrade. If you have apt-listchanges installed (it's installed by default) then NEWS will be presented at a point when you can still abort the upgrade. > >> I think the 2nd approach will be the easiest to implement: replace > >> “mountfs /usr“ by “for fs in $EARLYMOUNTFS ; do mountfs "$fs"; done“ but > >> it may still lead to confusion while upgrading Debian. I'm using Debian > >> for more than 15 years, now, and, until recently, I had never a major > >> Debian release that rendered my system unbootable. People don't expect > >> that. > > > > I'm sorry, but you can't claim you weren't warned about this. > > I can't remember of beeing warned when I installed the upgrade. In fact > I was surprised that the init systems depend on having /usr being > available before mounting the file systems. I suspect that you missed this during the upgrade to jessie, but things just happened to work (with systemd mounting /usr later) until now. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Quantity is no substitute for quality, but it's the only one we've got.
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