On Monday, December 05, 2016 07:28:33 PM Neil Roeth wrote:
> On 12/05/2016 12:52 PM, Dr. Tobias Quathamer wrote:
> > control: tags -1 -moreinfo
> > 
> > On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 08:37:37AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> >> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:51:44 -0500 Neil Roeth <n...@debian.org> wrote:
> >>> Package: ftp.debian.org
> >>> Severity: normal
> >>> 
> >>> Please remove the jade source package from which the jade and sp binary
> >>> packages are built.  They are obsolete and there are replacements
> >>> already in Debian, openjade and opensp.
> >> 
> >> The reverse build-depends will have to be migrated first:
> >> 
> >> Checking reverse dependencies...
> >> # Broken Build-Depends:
> >> aboot: sp
> >> mozart: sp
> >> pyepl: jade
> >> 
> >> Dependency problem found.
> >> 
> >> Once this is done, please remove the moreinfo tag.
> > 
> > Hi Scott,
> > 
> > I've removed the moreinfo tag because I think that jade can be
> > removed. If this is an error on my side, please add the moreinfo tag
> > again.
> > 
> > Those three packages all have a serious bug filed, asking for the
> > replacement of jade in their Build-Depends:
> > 
> > aboot  -- https://bugs.debian.org/832491
> > mozart -- https://bugs.debian.org/837510
> > pyepl  -- https://bugs.debian.org/840377
> > 
> > Moreover, all three packages have been removed from testing because of
> > other RC bugs. Unless those other bugs are fixed, they won't be part
> > of the next release.
> > 
> > So removing the package jade from unstable would only break those
> > packages in unstable -- where they are already severely broken.
> > 
> > And last, not least, the package "jade" has two RC bugs itself -- so
> > it will probably soon be scheduled for autorm from testing.
> > 
> > Would this justify the breaking of Build-Depends?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Tobias
> 
> Hi, Scott and Tobias,
> 
> Yes, Tobias nailed it, I went ahead and filed the removal bug for jade
> because those dependent packages had already been removed from testing.
> Also, he guessed correctly, I received an email two days ago stating
> that jade would be autoremoved from testing because of its RC bugs.  Is
> there any difference between letting it be removed that way vs. having
> your team explicitly remove it?

The difference is that we'll remove it from Unstable along with the associated 
overrides so it can't re-enter Debian without going through New again, not 
that that particularly matters in this case.

If the reverse-build-depends are sufficiently broken, then I agree there's no 
point in waiting.

Scott K

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