Andreas Kloeckner <inf...@tiker.net> writes: > Simon McVittie <s...@debian.org> writes: > >> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 at 14:27:56 -0500, Andreas Kloeckner wrote: >>> I assume you mean user-1000.slice, since there's not much under >>> user@1000.service, as you can see >> >> I did mean user@1000.service. ssh-agent.service's pid 3601 is >> the only process in this category AFAICS, other than systemd. >> >> If you had dbus-user-session installed, there'd be more services >> "next to" ssh-agent, notably including dbus-daemon. The fact that you >> *aren't* using dbus-user-session rules out this being caused by that >> particular change, and makes it less likely to be systemd or dbus >> that is to blame. >> >>> Interestingly, >>> >>> │ ├─ 3761 /usr/bin/gnome-shell >>> >>> has $LANG, but $LANGUAGE is missing >> >> That could be the culprit. Perhaps gnome-shell started before whatever >> it is that was responsible for setting LANGUAGE? > > That would also explain why it appears to be intermittent. If it's a > race between the $LANGUAGE setter and the shell starting up, then > either could win at each time. What is supposed to be controlling that > startup order?
FWIW, I installed dbus-user-session just to see what that would do, and the issue has remained the same. Andreas