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Hi, 2015-01-07 23:48 Wookey:
Package: aptitude Version: 0.6.11-1+b1 Followup-For: Bug #484011 I have been adding %t to the display format in aptitude for many years now. It's enormously useful and I really think it would be a benefit to users to make this the default . Changing it on every install is very dull. i.e change the default from %c%a%M%S %p %Z %v %V to %c%a%M%S %p %Z %t %v %V
I'm not sure if this is a good idea to do by default, because of the attached example. Probably most people use 80+ column-wide terminals nowadays if using them as full screens or similar, but maybe many people continue to use small terminals of that width, e.g. in tiled configurations. Due to the +dfsgN of many of our versions (e.g. "3.2.3+dfsg1-2" in the examples, with added "+b1" very often) and the long package names or versions (and versions appear twice) of packages across the board for different reasons [1], many lines do already don't appear fully even in terminals much wider than 80 (also, see attached file again). It looks to me that the's been an hyperinflation of package name and version lengths in the last few years. So I am not sure if it's a good idea to have this enabled by default, since in many systems is not very useful (if only having one repository enabled, plus perhaps "debug"). The packages can only come from "stable" in that case, even if the repository is called "stable-debug". Same for people who only use e.g. unstable or testing. People who are mixing distros/suites are the ones more likely to know that these options exist, same as you did, because you even mention it in the bug reports. I understand that it would be less annoying to have it by default, instead of modifying it every time (or not every time, but at least if you use multiple repositories in every machine that you administer, and also wide terminals). But since the extra space doesn't always come from free, and it's likely to hurt more the people who use Debian in "simpler" use-cases and are perhaps less learned in the matters of package managers, I am reluctant to go ahead with this change. So it will need further consideration. Cheers. [1] Like: fonts-symbol, 2:102.7+LibO5.1.5~rc1-1 cube2, 0.0.20130203+dfsg-1+b2 libcmis, 0.5.1+git20160603-1 libgraphicsmagick-q16-3, 1.3.24+hg20160808-1 libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0, 1.8.3-1 libjson-glib-1.0-common, 1.2.0-1 qml-module-org-kde-bluezqt, 5.25.0-1 openstreetmap-map-icons-classic, 0.0.svn32805-1 qml-module-qtquick-controls-styles-breeze, 4:5.7.0-1 libdatetime-format-strptime-perl, 1.6800-1 golang-github-audriusbutkevicius-go-nat-pmp-dev, 0.0~git20150722.0.3a76720-1 libicsharpcode-nrefactory-csharp5.0-cil, 5.3.0+20130718.73b6d0f-3 libmono-system-componentmodel-dataannotations4.0-cil, 4.2.1.102+dfsg2-8 libmono-system-runtime-serialization-formatters-soap4.0-cil, 4.2.1.102+dfsg2-8 postgresql-9.5-python3-multicorn, 1.3.2-1 addresses-goodies-for-gnustep, 0.4.8-2+b1 cairo-dock-desklet-rendering-plug-in, 3.4.0-1.4+b2 gccgo-multilib-powerpc64-linux-gnu, 6.1.1--2 -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo <manuel.montez...@gmail.com>
