On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 09:26:23PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On ven., 2016-04-01 at 18:54 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:11:15 +0200 Samuel Thibault <sthiba...@debian.org> > > > (That gives a really bad impression: Jessie is just one year old, we > > > told the installer to install the XFCE desktop, and the first thing we > > > got after rebooting from the installer was that fat warning...)
I wonder, perhaps this could warrant pushing an expedited update somehow? A popup blocking Xsession startup on every login shows Debian in a pretty bad light. Yeah, it's not a data-loss bug merely a bad PR bug but still... > > Maybe the best course of action would be, if xfce didn't install > > xscreensaver by default (but would choose a more lightweight / better > > integrated alternative). > > That's definitely something to consider for stretch. I wasn't really willing > to do that before because without having an Xfce locker I preferred staying > with the common ground, but I also had bad interaction with the upstream > developer and am not really interested in having more interactions. > > Right now, there's a way to switch to something else, which is light-locker, > so it might be a good idea to do that indeed. I'll update the tasksel package > with that in mind. light-locker has a hard dependency on lightdm, and if I read its description right, it's impossible to remove. I don't think we should tie xfce to a single display manager. It also does weird VT switching that's disconcerting enough to be called a bug. I took a look at alternatives: * gnome-screensaver has OMGWTFBBQ-level insanity that makes it useless for anyone but Gnome3 lovers * mate-screensaver isn't that much better (jwz is quite right...) * cinnamon-screensaver is surprisingly sane. Its depends/recommends would need trimming for reasonable use outside Cinnamon but I guess that's a matter of asking Cinnamon guys nicely. After all, it wasn't envisioned to be used elsewhere... * i3lock and slock[suckless-tools] lack a GUI Another option could be forking xscreensaver, it could use some trimming and fixing (for things where jwz disagreed). (I don't volunteer here, though -- I see a bunch of things I could help with drive-by patching, but no full maintenance, as I don't know xlib, details of DPMS handling or such). So, other than the obvious "return 0;" fix in jessie, I'd recommend not being hasty and think things through before updating all tasks, etc. Meow! -- A tit a day keeps the vet away.
