* Paul Gear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
> Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> >>/etc/init.d/shorewall stop will keep applied some of the shorewall settings
> > 
> > 
> > I experienced a problem that I think reduces to the same issue: I executed
> > "/etc/init.d/shorewall stop", thinking that it would disable the shorewall
> > rules and hence enable all traffic. However, running
> > "/etc/init.d/shorewall stop" left my system totally unreachable. I think
> > that's undesirable behaviour.
> 
> Lorenzo has changed the behaviour of the init script for Debian to make
> this the default behaviour for the benefit of those who are used to
> Debian init script behaviour.
> 
> However, for those experienced with Shorewall, this is extremely
> undesirable behaviour.  Stopping shorewall is semantically equivalent to
> saying "I don't want any more traffic passing through my firewall."
> 
> The appropriate way to clear out Shorewall's rules is 'shorewall clear'
> (which is now called by '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop').  If you want your
> system to be reachable when you execute 'shorewall stop', then you
> should put the appropriate entries in /etc/shorewall/routestopped.
> 
> Lorenzo, i think at the very least we need a clear, prominent comment in
> README.Debian that highlights the difference between 'shorewall stop'
> and '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop'.  I personally think the discrepancy is
> undesirable and a better approach would be educating users about what
> 'shorewall stop' and 'shorewall clear' are designed to do.

The comment is already in NEWS.Debian. If you use apt-listchanges
you'll be informed about news automatically when a new one is found.

-- lorenzo


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