On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:33:04PM +0100, Manuel Bilderbeek wrote: > On 14-01-16 23:55, Marc Haber wrote: > >On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:13:34PM +0100, Manuel Bilderbeek wrote: > >>I have no idea what to investigate and how. > > > >Check whether you have ::1 and/or 127.0.0.1 on lo. > > /etc/networks has: > loopback 127.0.0.0 > > Not sure how to check this in detail, I never had to do this in 15 > years of using Debian.
You have never used ifconfig or ip addr show to see which IP addresse you have configured? > >Stop exim. > >Use netstat to see who is listening on port 25. > > Interesting: > > sonata@23:17:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/exim4 stop > [ ok ] Stopping exim4 (via systemctl): exim4.service. > sonata@23:17:~$ sudo netstat -napt | grep :25 > tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN > 8769/exim4 > > Although I stop it, it's still running...? On a system with systemd as PID 1 you should not call init scripts directly, but use systemctl instead. Actually, you shouldn't run init scripts directly even on a sysvinit system, you should use service(1) to do that. > Looks like it's already started then, outside of systemd... what > could it be? The Debian exim4 packages do not use systemd yet, they still use traditional sysv init scripts. > As I said before, even though it gives that error, it is still able > to send the e-mail that the paniclog has grown. I guess that can be > explained by the fact that there was already an exim4 running > indeed. No. Please read the docs about exim4 and how it works, such as, for example, /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/spec.txt.gz chapter 3. You don't need a running daemon to send mail. > Is it possible this has to do with the automatic removal of > 'ifupdown'? It started when installing/upgrading several packages as > listed in my original report. Probably not, you're the only one with that issue. > >For basic Unix administration skills, you might want to refer to the > >relevant -user mailing lists. > > Do you really think that's a helpful remark? Yes. This is with utmost certainty not a bug in exim. By asking your questions in a bug report against exim and thus only to the exim4 maintainers, you're depraving yourself of 99.9% of people who would be able and willing to help. Greetings Marc -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421
