Aurelien Jarno wrote on Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 23:29:42 +0100: > control: reassign -1 libc6,pam,openssl > control: retitle -1 libc6,pam,openssl: avoid negative questions in > restart-without-asking debconf knob > > On 2015-12-22 07:43, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > Package: libc6 > > Version: 2.21-4 > > Severity: minor > > > > Dear Maintainer, > > > > The restart-without-asking debconf knob is formulated as a negative > > question: > > > > Template: libraries/restart-without-asking > > Type: boolean > > Default: false > > _Description: Restart services during package upgrades without asking? > > > > This can be confusing: in my case, I initially thought I should pick "yes" > > since I read the question is "would you like to be prompted before > > restarting > > services". > > I am not a native speaker, but I don't see this as problematic. The > default is actually "no", so this mean you are supposed to actually read > the question before changing the default.
I did read the question, but I misunderstood it: my "should I change the default?" subroutine had a false positive. I believe changing the template from a negative question to a positive question would make it less likely to be misunderstood in the future. > > I assume this could be done backwards-compatibly by defining a new knob > > (restart-without-asking2) and looking for the current knob name if the new > > knob > > isn't set. > > If we really want to change this, this is not that easy. The template is > shared with pam and openssl, so this need everybody to agree and some > coordination. I am therefore reassigning the bug to this three packages. Oh. I didn't realize the template is shared. I'm not sure this issue is important enough to justify a cross-package coordination effort; perhaps it should be closed as WONTFIX / ETOOMUCHEFFORT... > > I suggest to change the description to: > > .. > > _Description: Ask permission to restart services during package > > upgrades? > > .. > > and accordingly change the default answer to "Yes" (which would not be > > a semantic change). > > I have to say "Ask permission" sounds even more confusing to me, it's > not really clear how is it going to be asked. "would you like to be > prompted" sounds more clear to me. > Agreed about your suggested phrasing. Thanks for the detailed reply! Cheers, Daniel
