Am 05.11.2015 um 16:27 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > On 11/05/2015 03:46 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: >> I see that other packages use gold as well (e.g. >> qtbase-opensource-src), codesearch.d.n turns up quite a few more. >> Are you sure that this only affects systemd? > > So far, yes.
How do you know that? Have you actually checked those packages (and their rdeps)? >> Or is this specific due to the usage of LTO or the usage of other >> specific features? If so, have you checked which one that are and >> if that affects other packages as well? > > Probably. I'm not too much an experts when it comes to binutils. I > know someone who is though. Ok, knowing what the actual problem is would certainly be helpful in deciding what should be done. At least personally I like to understand the issue before applying a workaround. >>> Really, this workaround is currently the only chance we have to >>> be able to continue working on the ports. > >> I understand that fixing binutils might take some time. Then again, >> the gold linker on sparc has been known broken for over a year, so >> I don't quite get the sudden hurry (i.e. escalating this within 3 >> days without giving us a chance to respond, especiallly since I've >> been away over the weekend. I have to say I'm quite disturbed by >> that. But let's leave it at that) > > The hurry can be explained easily. As I explained before, systemd > Debian was carrying a patch which worked around the issue and > apparently, you, the systemd maintainers assumed this patch was > necessary for gudev only and hence it was removed when gudev was > split out of the systemd package. Around that time, packages started > to fail to build and I couldn't explain why. It was not until > recently when Jose Marchesi asked me to have systemd link with > gold that I discovered that the reason it problem occurred so > abruptly was the fact that the patch was dropped recently. As recently as May 2015, so it's been broken for almost half a year. So no, I don't quite understand the way this was approached from your side. But as said, let's leave it at that. >> I'm also not convinced yet that applying this workaround to systemd >> is the only available option and the correct one we should use. > > Well, if you have a better plan which does not involve requiring > to fix binutils over night, please go ahead. I'd be more than > curious to know. Depending on what actually is broken, a workaround could also be to make that functionality in gold on sparc a nop instead of generating broken code. Don't you think we should first understand what is broken and what the impact is? >> If other packages are affected as well, it sounds to me that we >> should rather add a workaround to binutils until a proper solution >> has been developed. > > No other packages are directly affected. Again, how do you know that? >> If it's only systemd, by all means let's merge that patch. But so >> far, I haven't seen a thorough assessment of this issue which would >> have convinced me in that direction. We certainly don't want to >> obstruct any efforts you do on the sparc port, but let's first be >> certain that this workaround is the proper one. > > It's the work-around suggested by one of the SPARC developers at Oracle. > So ... So, this doesn't necessarily mean other packages aren't affected. Depending on how many are, my answer will be different. Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth?
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