On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 15:02:49 +0200 Julian Andres Klode <j...@debian.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 07:59:27PM +0800, Clayton wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 22:08:18 +0200 > > David Kalnischkies <da...@kalnischkies.de> wrote: > > > > Just because it is not "OMG ITS COMPLETELY BROKEN" does not mean it > > is not still broken. apt-get dist-upgrade basically wants to remove > > my whole desktop. "apt-get install apt" still wants to remove > > essential desktop apps: most or all of KDE and libreoffice, for > > starters. > > Be sure to do an upgrade (with --with-new-pkgs if you are still using > apt-get) before the dist-upgrade. This way all packages will be > upgraded that do not conflict with an installed one. A dozen or so packages got through that way. > You can then try to dist-upgrade. Which is still in basically the same state. > If it does not work, you can try specifying package names you > absolutely want to keep. Keep in mind that maybe not all those > packages are installable, as some were forcefully broken in testing > to ease the transition. Only one cherry-pick worked, netting another dozen packages. Several hundred to go. I guess I will just wait a few days and see if things improve. There was a narrow window there where the transition was working. I have a laptop with Gnome, KDE, multiple other desktops, and a whole crap-load of other stuff that upgraded flawlessly. Wait a couple days, and the other laptop (the subject of this e-mail) is a mess. > > But I would like to be able to recommend Debian as a desktop to my > > Ubuntu-using friends. I personally do not consider a two+-year old > > Debian Stable a reasonable desktop option. Therefore Debian Testing > > must work for a reasonable person who is not a software engineer if > > we are to compete with Ubuntu. This behavior does not make the cut. > > It usually is. But this is the hardest transition since the libc > transition, and it is a huge pain. It's not like this normally > happens. That is some comfort, I had not realized that recent events had already become infamous. The reason I spoke up myself is I don't remember the last time I saw such a mess on my own desktop (that did not involve my own stupidity). Breaking the rolling release once in ten years is not too bad. Thanks, Clayton
