Hej Björn Regarding daily checks. I think you missed my point. You assume that all people have a reliable, fast internet connection and a fast computer. That is not always so. Many people do have a bad internet connection, something you pay for per MB or a slow computer that you do not want to do a lot of magic stuff on without you being involved.
This is why I did not have the link in cron.daily and this is why I think it is disabled by default in apt. cron-apt has daily updates included by default but scheduled to be at a time where most people will not be disturbed in their daily work. Cron-apt does not consider the problem of leased lines where you pay for per MB. It do consider slow speed links and slow computers though. Cheers, // Ola On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Björn Siebke <bjoernsie...@web.de> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Ola, > > thank you for answering in such detail! > > > I agree that it would be an useful feature, but I think such request > > will be rejected as the most important parts of the cron-apt > > functionality is actually included in apt (although disabled by default) > > since quite some time back, see: > > My suggestion is to activate a daily check for updates by default. If > apt is configured to do this, that is fine with me. > > > > I would not argue against having it part of the standard installation, > > but I'm not sure others would agree. The packages in the standard > > installation is quite limited. There are many other useful things that > > are not part of the standard install. > > This is not just a useful feature, but a very recommendable feature to > keep the system safe at all times. Let's be realistic: An average user > will not check for updates on a daily basis although this would be a > recommendable behaviour. > > > > Regarding linking in cron.daily it has been requested before but I do > > not want to do that by default as you may not want to load the network > > just because you start your computer. > > If there is not network there will be no check for updates. Where is the > problem? You will not be bothered... > > > In that case it would actually > > hurt more than it do good. > > ... and it will especially not "hurt". > > > > Another point is that it does not help to > > have it in cron.daily now with modern computers where you just suspend > > it when you do not work with it. > > I do not know much about cron, but I am very sure there is a workaround. > > > Cheers, > Björn > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1 > Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJV1MqUAAoJECNNcxO8k0eopkkP/0l6UIxYBmPWAk+DLwRMW09s > 2+UUxgGwQHWhYqSc7PQcCLUT83iTt0La0LPg5pQ6dk55HePQEPXv2aKJ6nGhduHn > YRxNrlfMp2jA9Ez+7yurMMB/IFWkHacIg+ay9FcCR5Bm7jjU/VJtGszKMyS6kJUh > 7LVjbQWqAz75MZ2cgTNaWV3m7PZwh3Tx6pP8N7hMNxJMx8oYjxeaBAdaFjmoHM9j > B1IkY/318ausQn4O0QV3+w20VvrLf4pdEf7BVR3eAVnd/kfYIUfG/T26OiTCe28W > mjCSZyz8Di0DvNsWgWj1DnZ06Vg8qte+/Ep/162diG1/cookWpAPVrcjw/3GwvOS > dylcWrQwdmnqeB5HQBOHZrsy04KZED4pBoFyrqr3yBhWPPhpIF3f9q1VozLPhVJN > +fnn6U1+zQD4dAu3to4yEbyVUhJUmyZKtnPqEO9Frygrkr1RiLCA8PpwANLHtlIJ > vVkMZb50rV3PJ2IxHU2iEgPXumZT8sZZI726w95kA+zY8lmBz5Ktbuv2bo6jdihl > LE4WX4lsGwyAEKZgt4A7Jzqgg5lPmifnOVHXOjCSTlCw8A59T/a1eYI00i8005yZ > DDOdPrsAkzxc+VbegClnilkOzq8IYk6QjgFjva4zrw133veTEl1e96Az2ejwrsZA > CYcidm/7ssBb+SCVPt3a > =z0Dp > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- --- Inguza Technology AB --- MSc in Information Technology ---- / o...@inguza.com Annebergsslingan 37 \ | o...@debian.org 654 65 KARLSTAD | | http://inguza.com/ Mobile: +46 (0)70-332 1551 | \ gpg/f.p.: 7090 A92B 18FE 7994 0C36 4FE4 18A1 B1CF 0FE5 3DD9 / ---------------------------------------------------------------
