(Cc'ing the reproducible builds mailing list instead of specific team members.)
W. Martin Borgert: > while I'm all in favour of reproducible builds, I'm not happy > with messing up hundreds of packages debian/rules files. Why not > change the defaults of sphinx or dh or whatever and just rebuild > packages? It would need to be Sphinx. If you look at the patch for pypump you have replied to: > - make -C docs html > + make -C docs html SPHINXOPTS="$(SPHINXOPTS)" As you can see, the current `debian/rules` already contains specific code to build the documentation. But if we can find solutions that would fix all these packages at once, that would be really awesome! :) > Who needs or wants a "last change date" in the HTML anyway? Some people argue that you need it to determine how “fresh” the documentation is. In the case of documentation generated by Debian package, I think the package version string is a much more reliable information. The problem is that Sphinx is not only used to build Debian packages. So changing the default to the use the latter sounds tricky. > We worked years to get the d/r files clean and short and now we > add cruft to it again? Which is repeated redundantly in hundreds of > files? Maybe dh_sphinxdoc could just "do the right thing"? `dh_sphinxdoc` should indeed be changed to do the right thing. But looking at the stream of patches written by Juan for this issue, I haven't seen any for packages using `dh_sphinxdoc`, and even if patches look alike, they are hardly identical. The only “cruft” I really see is: > +LAST_CHANGE=$(shell dpkg-parsechangelog -S Date) > +BUILD_DATE=$(shell LC_ALL=C date -u "+%B %d, %Y" -d "$(LAST_CHANGE)") The problem is that every tool on Earth uses a different date format. They have been discussions on adding variables to `/usr/share/dpkg/pkg-info.mk` But that basically would mean replacing the two lines by: include /usr/share/dpkg/pkg-info.mk And then using something like (if we can agree to export the date in multiple format): SPHINXOPTS := -D today=\"$(SOURCE_DATE_ENGLISH_SHORT)\" It doesn't feel like a huge win to me. (Remember that packages can be built without using `dpkg-buildpackage`, so the Makefile has to be self-contained.) -- Lunar .''`. lu...@debian.org : :Ⓐ : # apt-get install anarchism `. `'` `-
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