On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:08:09PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > (dropping -release) > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:01:25PM +0100, Niels Thykier wrote: > > On 2015-02-15 12:57, Niko Tyni wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 10:19:18PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > > > >> Relaxing the circular dependency is a workaround that might be doable, > > >> even though it would be 'incorrect'. There are modules in perl that > > >> need others in perl-modules, and vice versa. However, I count only 21 > > >> binary packages in sid [1] that depend on perl-modules but not perl. > > >> As perl is transitively build essential (via dpkg-dev and libdpkg-perl), > > >> build dependencies should not be a concern at all. > > > > > > There are a few packages that pull in perl indirectly through their other > > > dependencies, which brings the count of binary packages that only depend > > > on perl-modules down to 15: > > > > Release team: if we don't find another solution, would you be willing to > > > allow changes in these packages replacing > > > Depends: perl-modules > > > with > > > Depends: perl > > > into jessie? > > > Yes. Feel free to do this in parallel with trying to find an > > alternative solution. The sooner we solve this upgrade issue, the better. > > Thanks, and sorry for the lack of action on this bug. I'm struggling > to find any Debian time at the moment. > > I doubt we can find any other solution, unless the apt maintainers can > come up with something. So I assume breaking the circular dependency is > the way to go even though I'm not very happy about it. > > The next step should probably be to review the packages that would pull > in perl-modules without perl, and see if they would be actually broken > by the change. If they would, we'll need to declare appropriate Breaks > in the perl-modules version that doesn't depend on perl anymore. > > Changing packages that don't actually break is a lower priority item, > even if I'd like to see them all changed before the release. > > One (somewhat crude) approach would be to file severity:serious bugs > now against all the relevant packages, and then later downgrade any that > turn out to work with just perl-modules.
I already did this earlier today (and have now added them as blockers to this). > Possibly this bug should be cloned against the apt package at the wheezy > version. I don't think we know currently if it's still hiding in the > jessie version too? > > As things are, circular dependencies seem to have become so fragile that > we might as well forbid them in the policy IMO... > > I probably won't be able to work on any of this before the weekend. > Help is certainly welcome. Will help out where I can. Dominic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
