Hi, On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 07:04:30PM +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > On Sat, 2014-12-13 at 15:01 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > > I would like to have a method to > > kill all ssh sessions with the exception of my own ones, or the single > > session that I happen to type the command restarting sshd in. > Since there is no definition of "which are yours" (the ones logged in to > your current user? sessions started by your current user?) this is going > to be difficult, apart from the fact, that one would need a way to find > out such information. > > Anyway. This kind of process management is not what the init-system > should be there for.
I am aware of that. I was just dreaming of a perfect solution, very well knowing that I won't get it RSN. > > That would be a pretty severe change from the behavior we used to have > > for fifteen years. I also guess it would be used as an argument > > against systemd as a whole. > First of all,... I just put that up for open discussion... i.e. the > questions: > When we'd start from scratch with the OS, and would ask ourselves "what > should happen when I type 'stop service XYZ'"... would that be to only > stop the listener, or to stop anything related to that service (i.e. > also any sessions, like ongoing httpd connections or that like). Yes, but GNU/Linux is not a "grĂ¼ne wiese" approach, it is migrating millions of existing systems. Even a classic Unix leaves many things to be hated, but it's just what we are used to, and which is not easily changed. > OTOH, people aren't stupid and when you tell them why a current > behaviour changes and that it's for a better design of the system,.. > they likely can adapt to it. Locking a shell for a two-digit number of seconds in a ordinare usage situation is something I would not want to adapt to even if the underlying system was perfect. > And in general, one cannot stop progress just because there are some > backwards-minded people who never want to have ill-designed things to > change. I fail to see why it is "progress" to save five seconds of shutdown time for the machine while the same change wastes half a minute or more for the human. Greetings Marc, well aware that the last sentence will be misinterpreted as systemd hatred again, which it is not -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600420 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org