On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 02:30:33PM -0500, Faheem Mitha wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for replying. See responses below.
>
> On Sun, 4 Dec 2005, Osamu Aoki wrote:
>
> >On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 10:17:00PM -0500, Faheem Mitha wrote:
> >>Package: debian-reference
> >>Severity: wishlist
> >>Tags: patch
> >
> >Thanks. But let me think a bit before applying this...
> >
> >See below for my comment.
> >
> >>I'd suggest adding some material to the dchroot section, including notes
> >>about about bind mounts, dchroot, and prompt configuration. I've found all
> >>this information extremely useful.
> >
> >bind mount has come to good idea for newer kernels.
>
> Is it not supported for older kernels? When did this start being
> supported?
Quick google search pointed me to mount(8) web page;
Since Linux 2.4.0 it is possible to remount part of the file hierarchy
somewhere else. The call is
mount --bind olddir newdir
> >dchroot is good idea but going too deep on explainiing paricular
> >application is not for debian-reference unless that is essential thing.
>
> Ok, well, at least mention it.
Yah.
> I notice that there seems to be a desire to keep the Debian reference
> small and compact. I personally think it would be more useful if it was
> more discursive, like a textbook.
Who have time? Also there are other docs too.
> Is the reason that you don't want it to balloon into an uncontrollable
> size?
Management of contents, transklation ... For me it is alrady too big as
volunteer. I have my day job which is not IT admin.
> >Question is having manual steps are more educational or pointing people
> >to dchroot and asking peolpe to read its script to get in-depth process.
>
> They can do both. The advantage of having details is that people don't
> have to spend time looking to multuple places and the information is
> readily accessible from a central source. Isn't that what a reference is
> supposed to be?
>
> >prompt is really preference thing. pbuilder or some package (or recent
> >default) surprized me by having similar fancy staff by default.
>
> Ok, but worth mentioning, since it is quite useful to know when one is in
> the chroot.
Anyway, ther is activity to reorganize DR. I leave this bug open so we
remember.
> >> 8.6.35.2. Setting up login for `chroot'
> >> ---------------------------------------
> >>@@ -7017,6 +7083,8 @@
> >> main # echo "8:23:respawn:/usr/sbin/chroot </sid-root> "\
> >> "/sbin/getty 38400 tty8" >> /etc/inittab
> >> main # init q # reload init
> >>+
> >>+# The purpose of this section is not clear to me.
> >>
> >> 8.6.35.3. Setting up X for `chroot'
> >> -----------------------------------
> >
> >This is to make terminal8 running sid while other 1-6 (console) are
> >stable.
> >
> >I have not done this recently. I only use sid for building package
> >mostly.
> >
> >Maybe, I need to test all these on sarge.
>
> Oh, sorry. This was rather clueless of me, since I now recall that I have
> in fact used this feature in the past. However, I'd recommend mentioning
> that the purpose of this is so that one can log directly into the chroot
> from the console by doing Ctrl-Alt-F8.
I see your point.
> This (8.6.35.2) does indeed work on sarge.
Thanks confirming :-)
Osamu
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