Hi Martin, David, Jason + Frank, top posting what this is about... For details, see below...
@Jason+Frank, this thread discusses the status of the dojo package that could be more up-to-date then it currently is in Debian.
As you three are maintainer/uploader of that package, I'd be happy to receive feedback from you about current activity on the dojo packaging. A new upstream version has been available for a while... and it would be great to get a newer version into Jessie before the freeze window closes.
TL;DR; for the below thread... owncloud 7.x provides a WebODF feature (editing ODF documents TTW in an owncloud instance). This feature works if owncloud is built against a recent dojo upstream version. However, dojo in Debian got stuck at 1.7.2 and has not been updated since 2012.
On Fr 15 Aug 2014 12:08:07 CEST, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Freitag, 15. August 2014, 09:26:30 schrieb Mike Gabriel:Hi David, On Mi 13 Aug 2014 20:11:46 CEST, David Prévot wrote: > Hi, > >> On Mo 11 Aug 2014 09:25:21 CEST, Martin Steigerwald wrote: >> >> @David: can you give feedback on this? Is webodf working in the >> unstable package of owncloud? > > Yes, it?s working in unstable and in testing, and is a known issue of the > backports package. > > CCing an exchange we had three months ago on #debian-owncloud: > > 15:58 < taffit> sunweaver: if the documents stuff doesn?t work, the > current trick is to build owncloud with a recent dojo, I can make the one > I use available if you wish. > 15:59 < sunweaver> taffit: what do you mean by documents stuff? Viewing > libreoffice docs and others? > 16:00 < taffit> editing odt > 16:00 < sunweaver> ah right... > 16:00 < sunweaver> and "make the one I use available" means? > 16:00 < sunweaver> Will you upload it to wheezy-bpo? > 16:00 < taffit> the next dojo version that is currently WIP, not yet > uploaded to debian > 16:01 < sunweaver> I just saw... > 16:01 < taffit> (I use a more recent dojo version to build owncloud, so it > works with the dojo version currently in the archive) > 16:01 < sunweaver> will that make sense for unstable? > 16:02 < taffit> the headache is that the documents app doesn?t work with > the more recent dojo version? > 16:02 < sunweaver> you are confusing me... > 16:02 < sunweaver> I though it is needed for the docuemnt stuff... > 16:02 < sunweaver> s/though/thought/ > 16:02 < taffit> It?s confusing indeed, let me retry to explain > 16:05 < taffit> In order to make it work with the dojo version currently > in Debian, I *build* the documents app (thus owncloud) with a more recent > dojo version. This more recent dojo version is not yet fully functionnal, > and can?t be used to make the documents app work :/ > 16:06 < taffit> An alternative would be to use the minified JavaScript as > provided in the tarball, but that seems even uglier to me. > 16:07 < sunweaver> taffit: man that's a hack!!! > 16:08 < sunweaver> shouldn't we provide something more reproducible? > [?] > 16:10 < taffit> sunweaver: Yay? I?ve been stuck a long time trying various > stuff before being able to make it work. Now that I found this piece of > black magic, I?m a bit relieve, but would highly prefer a proper system. > 16:11 < taffit> Help would be highly welcome here, I?m not really a > JavaScript guy. > 16:11 < taffit> s/not really/really not/ ;) > 16:14 < sunweaver> taffit: me neither... > 16:15 < sunweaver> have you pinged kapouer? Or this new talent on the > pkg-javascript list... What's his name...? > 16:16 < sunweaver> l3on is his name... > 16:18 < sunweaver> taffit: owncloud 6.0.3 has been upload to wheezy-bpo. > 16:20 * taffit will get in touch with the pkg-javascript team as soon as > I manage to explain the problem ;) Yes, I remember that discussion. I hoped that this has been solved meanwhile. To be double-sure: were saying that the uploaded owncloud package has been built with a build-chain that contains software outside of Debian?Wow, that sounds like quite some hack. Maybe better to go without WebODFsupport at least in wheezy-backports unless stuff required for it is availablein a quality that allows it to be used for building *and* using the documents app. Is upstream aware of this issue? Thanks,
@Martin: The issue rather seems to be a Debian issue. The dojo package in Debian hasn't at least been updated since wheezy got out. The debian/changelog date goes back to "Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:14:59 -0500".
There is a bug that has started a discussion on upgrading but without results so far ([1]).
Thus, this package feels quite unmaintained at the moment, however, it would be helpful to get a newer upstream version into unstable to get WebODF support working in owncloud.
I hope Jason or Frank can give feedback and maybe possibly hand over the dojo package to the Javascript or the Owncloud packaging team.
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