On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 09:31:53PM +0200, Yann Dirson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 09:11:27PM -0700, Elliott Mitchell wrote:
> > There is still a potential purpose for dh-kpatches.  Maintainance of
> > patches that are likely to remain outside the kernel
> > (linux-patch-debianlogo) may remain easier with dh-kpatches.
> > Additionally dh-kpatches may also fulfill the role of keeping kernel
> > patch-handling UIs together, rather than having them drift apart; a
> > change though is needed since instead of needing to be consistent for
> > make-kpkg --added_patches, it needs to be handy for humans on a
> > command-line.
> 
> Isn't it simpler to import those patches in a git branch (if their
> home is not a git tree to start with, that is) and just manage them
> with "git merge" to apply them and "git reset --hard" to unapply them ?
> 
> Or, possibly better, use git-reintegrate (which I incidentely uploaded
> to unstable a couple of days ago), which can even give you
> version-control of the baseline + patch sets you'll have used over time ?

Some people may prefer that approach.  Using the packaged patches has the
advantage of that as long as the package maintainer uploaded a good
package everywhere past that is protected by the signatures on the
archive.  There is also the benefit of the Debian bug-tracking so
hopefully everything will have been tested to work on a fair number of
machines before release.

> > Right now I'm wondering whether try to take advantage of dh-kpatches for
> > handling some special purpose patches, versus rolling my own for the
> > situations *I* expect to handle.  Notable weaknesses of dh-kpatches for
> > my purposes, I need tarball handling and handling of hundreds of patches
> > and a few patch dependancies.
> > 
> > Why do bugs #355502 and #359063 remain unresolved 8 years after
> > reportting when they seem near-trivial to solve?
> 
> Mostly because I don't have any interest left in that package, and
> noone stepped for maintainance in 4 years despite the RFA.  In fact, I
> should really orphan the package to reflect its true state...

That may indeed be for the best.  This would certainly prevent anyone
from thinking use of dh-kpatches was a good idea in the modern era.  If
we're lucky this would force the maintainers of the two very actively
maintained kernel patch packages (linux-patch-grsecurity2 and
linux-patch-xenomai) to step forward.


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