On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 12:19:58PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> >On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 10:26:43AM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:

> >>Subject: firestarter breaks nis
> >>Package: firestarter
> >>Version: 1.0.3-1.1
> >>Severity: critical
> >>Justification: breaks unrelated software

> >Firestarter is a firewalling tool; nis is a network application.  These are
> >not unrelated software.

> >Given that you can break *any* network application by means of a
> >misconfigured firewall, and given that your stated solution for this bug 
> >was
> >to make a change to your *nis* config, not to your firestarter config, I
> >don't see any reason to treat this as a grave bug, either.

> This is a workaround, not a solution.

> In fact installation/start of firestarter breaks an otherwise working 
> configuration in nis. The really annoying part of the problem is that no 
> hints of what gets wrong is displayed by firestarter; no events etc.

> The firewall is set up correctly, allowing all connections to the 
> desired private network. I would prefer to change the configuration via 
> firestarter, not nis. How should one set up firestarter to allow 
> broadcassting to 192.168.0.255 for a nis server apart from allowing all 
> connections to and from 192.168.0.0/24?

Presumably, allowing outbound broadcast packets to 192.168.0.255/32 on an
appropriate destination port and incoming udp packets from 192.168.0.0/24
on an appropriate source port would be correct?

I've never personally used firestarter, so I don't know whether it's
reasonable to expect all blocked inbound or outbound packets to generate
logging events.  The package description says there's a "real-time hit
monitor" that shows attackers probing your machine; if it's the outbound
traffic that's being blocked, then that doesn't qualify as "an attacker
probing the machine", so *I* don't have any expectation that such traffic
would generate log events.  You may have a different expectation; if so, it
would help me to know why your expectation is different from mine.

> To sum it up: the firewall is configured correctly,

This is patently false.  If the firewall were configured correctly for your
application, the application would not fail.  If you mean that the firewall
*cannot* be configured correctly, that would be a more serious bug, but I
haven't gathered that this is actually what you're saying.

> shows no logs

which could warrant a release-critical severity, depending on what the
normal logging policy is for firestarter.

> NB: According to reportbug:
> breaks unrelated software:  breaks unrelated software on the system 
> (packages that have a dependency relationship are not unrelated)

> I used this definition of 'unrelated'. Sorry if this was wrong.

This is not a definition, this is only an explanation of one type of package
relationship that *disqualifies* a bug for being of critical severity. :)
Software may be "related" in other ways than through dependency fields --
like I said, a firewall and a network application are another case of
related packages.

Cheers,
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