Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Woody wrote:
I see also a broken behaviour. I am doing a dual boot - with and
without systemd.
Till the libpolkit-backend has been linked against systemd, it has
worked just fine.

The problem is now that backend is trying to blindly use systemd, and
fails if systemd is not running as init. With that change the user
authentication for network-manager or pcmanfm mounting are broken -
there is just a pcmanfm msgbox "Not Authorized".

So *libpolkit-backend should first try to verify if systemd is an
init program, and if not - do not try to use it for authentication* -
it will definitely fail - so there is no point doing so.

I understand that running without systemd is not a typical Debian
installation, but dependence on systemd should not be a mandatory for
Debian breaking everything either.
The only thing that policykit expects is a registered logind session
(you can use loginctl command to check if it exists), not systemd as
PID1. Moreover, network-manager also using logind for session tracking
since 0.9.8.8-1.

My point is that if I overwrite the libpolkit-backend 1.0.5-5 with the .so from 1.0.5-4 - the network manager and pcmanfm manage to authenticate (probably using consolekit)
It is an important bug.
Could you please check if you have a logind session registered. Also
which DM are you using to login?
Laurent, no DM. Imagine an embedded system starting X first, asking questions (and services ;-0) later... Here is the logincmd data :

/woody> loginctl list-sessions
   SESSION        UID USER             SEAT
        c1       1000 user             seat0

1 sessions listed.

 /woody> loginctl session-status c1
c1 - user (1000)
           Since: Mon 2014-05-19 12:41:21 EDT; 5 days ago
          Leader: 1475 (su)
            Seat: seat0; vc1
             TTY: /dev/tty1
          Remote: user root
         Service: su; type tty; class user
           State: online
          CGroup: systemd:/user/1000.user/c1.session
                  ├─1475 /bin/su -c /usr/bin/faststartx -l user
                  ├─1503 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login
                  ├─1507 /bin/sh /usr/bin/faststartx
├─1511 xinit /usr/bin/fastsession -- /usr/bin/X11/X -nolist...
                  ├─1512 /usr/bin/X11/X :0 -nolisten tcp vt2
├─1515 ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-wit...
                  ├─1620 /usr/bin/lxsession -s LXDE -e LXDE
├─1623 dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session x-sessio... ├─1624 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 6 --print-ad... ├─1637 openbox --config-file /home/user/.config/openbox/lxd...
                  ├─1645 lxpanel --profile LXDE
├─1661 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/system-config-printer/app...
                  ├─1744 nm-applet
                  ├─1757 eeeweather CYOW
                  ├─1785 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/menu-cache/menu-cached
                  ├─1798 lxclipboard
                  ├─1852 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
                  ├─1896 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconf/gconfd-2
                  ├─2216 lxterminal
                  ├─2217 gnome-pty-helper
                  ├─2218 /bin/bash
                  ├─2224 /bin/bash
                  ├─2228 sudo su -
                  ├─2231 su -
                  ├─2244 -su
                  ├─3677 /usr/lib/seamonkey/seamonkey
                  ├─5329 pcmanfm-0.9 --desktop --profile LXDE
                  ├─7684 loginctl session-status c1
                  └─7685 pager

And here is the magic of the system. I do not start systemd explicitly, I guess D-Bus is taking care of that:
/...
    1 ?        Ss     0:00 /sbin/fastinit
 1407 ?        Ss     0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon
 1474 ?        Ss     0:04 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system --fork
 1475 ?        S      0:00 /bin/su -c /usr/bin/faststartx -l user
 1507 ?        Ss     0:00  \_ /bin/sh /usr/bin/faststartx
1511 ? S 0:00 \_ xinit /usr/bin/fastsession -- /usr/bin/X11/X -nolisten tcp vt2
 1512 tty2     Ss+   12:42          \_ /usr/bin/X11/X :0 -nolisten tcp vt2
1515 ? S 0:00 \_ ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session x-session-manager 1620 ? Sl 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/lxsession -s LXDE -e LXDE 1637 ? S 0:19 \_ openbox --config-file /home/user/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml
 2216 ?        Sl     0:17                  |   \_ lxterminal
 2217 ?        S      0:00                  |       \_ gnome-pty-helper
 2218 pts/0    Ss     0:00                  |       \_ /bin/bash
 2228 pts/0    S      0:00                  |       |   \_ sudo su -
 2231 pts/0    S      0:00                  |       |       \_ su -
 2244 pts/0    S      0:00                  |       |           \_ -su
 7691 pts/0    R+     0:00                  |       | \_ ps -axfw
 2224 pts/1    Ss+    0:00                  |       \_ /bin/bash
 1645 ?        Sl     2:42                  \_ lxpanel --profile LXDE
5329 ? Sl 0:01 \_ pcmanfm-0.9 --desktop --profile LXDE
 1486 ?        S      0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd-logind
1503 ? SLl 0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login
 1545 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon
 1612 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug
1623 ? S 0:00 dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session x-session-manager 1624 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 6 --print-address 8 --session
 1629 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3
1661 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/system-config-printer/applet.py
 1744 ?        SLl    0:07 nm-applet
 1757 ?        S      0:13 eeeweather CYOW
 1785 ?        Ssl    0:00 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/menu-cache/menu-cached
 1798 ?        S      0:00 lxclipboard
 1852 ?        Sl     0:34 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
 1863 ?        S      0:00 syslogd
 1896 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconf/gconfd-2
 1897 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid
 1907 ?        Sl     0:01 /usr/lib/udisks/udisks-daemon --no-debug
 1918 ?        S      0:00  \_ udisks-daemon: not polling any devices
 1920 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd -C /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
 1930 ?        Ssl    0:08 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager
2035 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/dhclient -d -sf /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action -pf /var/run/dhclient-wlan0.pid - 1982 ? S 0:01 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /var/run/wpa_supplicant
/...

Thanks, Woody


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