On 02/18/2014 09:34 PM, Jason Frothingham wrote:
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Adopting systemd does not, in any way shape, form, idea, concept,
conclusion, thought, etc. etc. etc. prevent, pervert, divert, etc.
etc. etc. the goal of a computationally stable, bug-free, and flexible
operating system.�
First of all, YES it does.. and a lot.. and the majority of competent
Debian users know this, and that is why you are catching so much hell
over putting it into Debian. And this is why so many people are coming
out of the woodwork to express their concerns.. they are concerned about
the integrity (stable, bug-free, flexible) of Debian as a viable server
and general purpose operating system for critical applications.. and
they don't want it screwed with!
So do this, and other mailing lists a favor, knock off the Fear,
Uncertainty, and Doubt. �if you have the coding chops to actually
comment on systemd's capabilities and features; or lack-thereof; at a
code level rather than just at a Moronix Level, you'd probably be
better off diving in and fixing bugs yourself.�
I have been "coding" since the early 80's, so please don't go there with
me, it doesn't work. I don't care about systemd's capabilities.. that is
a mute point. All I need to know is that it is an overly complicated,
unnecessary piece of crapware that reduces the integrity of the
distribution and that is all that matters.
As to you initial question about what I would have the developers do.. I
would say do just that.. develop Debian software that continues to make
it a truly universal operating system and follows the original intent of
the Debian way. Debian has been around almost as long as the Internet
itself.. there are a lot of users out here that don't want to see anyone
mess it up! ..Figure out a way around being stuck having to use udev
since it has been co-opted by systemd.. that would be my first task for you!
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Tony Thedford <t...@accesslab.com
<mailto:t...@accesslab.com>> wrote:
Putting the "systemd" issue on bugs.debian.org
<http://bugs.debian.org> is a bit ridiculous I would say! As to
why there are developers within Debian who are hellbent on turning
Debian into buggy desktop software rather than keeping with the
universal operating system directive.. I will never know! Debian
is a major force in global server software and therefore must
remain extremely stable, bug-free, and flexible.. all of which
systemd/gnome crapware nullifies!
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